Posted by: Johnnyboy, Blackburn on 2:32pm Wed 9 Apr 08
Totally agree with Bill Taylor, the street art in Blackburn has received a lot of negative press from dim local people who just dont understand the quality of these public works of art.
Church street was and still is an excellent achievement and as for Mark asking for housing all i can say is, go find the work first then build your own house, dont expect society to provide it for you if you cant find the work then go and find it somewhere else.
Blackburn has provided too much in the past for so many in return for so little.
Theres plenty of houses for sale many empty so i dont see were Mark is coming from except for being stupid.
Totally agree with Bill Taylor, the street art in Blackburn has received a lot of negative press from dim local people who just dont understand the quality of these public works of art.
Church street was and still is an excellent achievement and as for Mark asking for housing all i can say is, go find the work first then build your own house, dont expect society to provide it for you if you cant find the work then go and find it somewhere else.
Blackburn has provided too much in the past for so many in return for so little.
Theres plenty of houses for sale many empty so i dont see were Mark is coming from except for being stupid.
Posted by: Nostradamos, Blackburn on 5:14pm Wed 9 Apr 08
Church street was and still is an excellent achievement and as for Mark asking for housing all i can say is, go find the work first then build your own house, dont expect society to provide it for you if you cant find the work then go and find it somewhere else.
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Johnnyboy,what a crap out look you have and dont tell me,let me guess,Aaah yes, your a NEW labour voter or maybe even a tory both the same these days,makes no difference really..LOL.
There are poeple living in this world,land,Town who through no fault of there own CANNOT get off the ground anymore,just to buy the scratiest of an old terraced house they are having to look at finding someone who can loan them 70/80000 pounds and there aint that much going in jobs for those people either,lots of college courses of course there are,you have seriously got to start and understand excactly how some folks have to survive in this world TODAY through no fault of there own,they just cannot get started but perhaps you havnt a clue what i am on about here, and all the sculptures and fine arts have to go straight over there heads mate,priorities are what we are talking about unfortunately priorities for some are totally and oh so sadly different for others,yes lets make a nice town for ourselves and lets see the fortunes that are CONSTANTLY being wasted by people who permanently pat thenselves and each other on the back stop being wasted,Bill Taylor knows the touchy points in our town that is why he keeps bringing them up,i have not met anyone who praises any of these very expensive monstrosities,whilst i have discussed the finer details and meanings, with,lets say the more intellectual of our town who in the main also agree that it is very funny,a bit like the urban river thingy..LOL Wake up Johnnyboy the coffee smells great..lets help these people to get a start,not kick them in the goulies by telling them how much we have paid for a load of crap we are sticking all over town,lifes about poepl mate not art.
Church street was and still is an excellent achievement and as for Mark asking for housing all i can say is, go find the work first then build your own house, dont expect society to provide it for you if you cant find the work then go and find it somewhere else.
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Johnnyboy,what a crap out look you have and dont tell me,let me guess,Aaah yes, your a NEW labour voter or maybe even a tory both the same these days,makes no difference really..LOL.
There are poeple living in this world,land,Town who through no fault of there own CANNOT get off the ground anymore,just to buy the scratiest of an old terraced house they are having to look at finding someone who can loan them 70/80000 pounds and there aint that much going in jobs for those people either,lots of college courses of course there are,you have seriously got to start and understand excactly how some folks have to survive in this world TODAY through no fault of there own,they just cannot get started but perhaps you havnt a clue what i am on about here, and all the sculptures and fine arts have to go straight over there heads mate,priorities are what we are talking about unfortunately priorities for some are totally and oh so sadly different for others,yes lets make a nice town for ourselves and lets see the fortunes that are CONSTANTLY being wasted by people who permanently pat thenselves and each other on the back stop being wasted,Bill Taylor knows the touchy points in our town that is why he keeps bringing them up,i have not met anyone who praises any of these very expensive monstrosities,whilst i have discussed the finer details and meanings, with,lets say the more intellectual of our town who in the main also agree that it is very funny,a bit like the urban river thingy..LOL Wake up Johnnyboy the coffee smells great..lets help these people to get a start,not kick them in the goulies by telling them how much we have paid for a load of crap we are sticking all over town,lifes about poepl mate not art.
Posted by: removals R me, my front room on 5:17pm Wed 9 Apr 08
this is a excellent piece of work, i bet that the nearest that MARK from blackburn gets to art is drawing the dole, whilst looking for the next handout. get a life you waster.
this is a excellent piece of work, i bet that the nearest that MARK from blackburn gets to art is drawing the dole, whilst looking for the next handout. get a life you waster.
Posted by: Tak Singh, Nr ARTE DE TART on 6:53pm Wed 9 Apr 08
I drove along the M65 the other day passing the stunning 12 metre high statue Arte et Labore by Tom Dagnall.
Is it just me or does it like someone P**SED THROWING UP OVER A WALL !
I drove along the M65 the other day passing the stunning 12 metre high statue Arte et Labore by Tom Dagnall.
Is it just me or does it like someone P**SED THROWING UP OVER A WALL !
Posted by: Johnnyboy, Blackburn on 6:53pm Wed 9 Apr 08
Nostradamos,
I found it very hard in deed to agree with some Labour winker and agree with the sad decline of our once proud nation under 'New labour'.
Costs have gone through the roof, but, thats the price of living in new labours Britain.
Never, will never, shall i vote Labour, but i agree with the works of art they look better than the drab moaners who think the world owes them a living that life should be better for them when they contribute little or nothing to it.
Houses can be part rented part bought to ease the finacial burden for the long term unemployed they should leave and look for were the work is not think that society owes them a living, thats all.
The college courses are designed for these people to stimualte, build confidence and get the skills required to earn a decent living if they arent prepared to take responsibility for themselves does Blackburn really need them. I think not.
Nostradamos,
I found it very hard in deed to agree with some Labour winker and agree with the sad decline of our once proud nation under 'New labour'.
Costs have gone through the roof, but, thats the price of living in new labours Britain.
Never, will never, shall i vote Labour, but i agree with the works of art they look better than the drab moaners who think the world owes them a living that life should be better for them when they contribute little or nothing to it.
Houses can be part rented part bought to ease the finacial burden for the long term unemployed they should leave and look for were the work is not think that society owes them a living, thats all.
The college courses are designed for these people to stimualte, build confidence and get the skills required to earn a decent living if they arent prepared to take responsibility for themselves does Blackburn really need them. I think not.
Posted by: Nostradamos, Blackburn on 8:47am Thu 10 Apr 08
Sorry for the mistake on the new labour bit,in the main i take on board lots that you say, a couple of points i struggle with,1) i am not quite sure that Mark, is a scrounger although it isnt impossible that you yourself could be mark,,lol,,i have made more or less the same claims as Mark but you havnt jumped down my throat,but i am talking bout young couples with no financial support available from parents,yep,as you say it is renting thats the answer,another way of the rich getting richer.
2) College courses,you say these are to develope skills for future jobs,ok i say a very small percentage will gain enough skills to get a job from this path,other than those doing it through apprenticeships and the like,but what i will say is that it totaLLY DISGUISES THE UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURES.
Does Blackburn really need them,i agree no it doesnt and a purge is needed and the results should be published in the LET,we are currently classed third highest in the country for claiming benefits,i would love these poeple to be named and shamed,who are they?,how long have they been on benefits?this must stop and the only way to do this is to find out who they are,and for sure Blackburn does NOT need them.
Sorry for the mistake on the new labour bit,in the main i take on board lots that you say, a couple of points i struggle with,1) i am not quite sure that Mark, is a scrounger although it isnt impossible that you yourself could be mark,,lol,,i have made more or less the same claims as Mark but you havnt jumped down my throat,but i am talking bout young couples with no financial support available from parents,yep,as you say it is renting thats the answer,another way of the rich getting richer.
2) College courses,you say these are to develope skills for future jobs,ok i say a very small percentage will gain enough skills to get a job from this path,other than those doing it through apprenticeships and the like,but what i will say is that it totaLLY DISGUISES THE UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURES.
Does Blackburn really need them,i agree no it doesnt and a purge is needed and the results should be published in the LET,we are currently classed third highest in the country for claiming benefits,i would love these poeple to be named and shamed,who are they?,how long have they been on benefits?this must stop and the only way to do this is to find out who they are,and for sure Blackburn does NOT need them.
Posted by: simplysimon, burnley on 12:48pm Thu 10 Apr 08
I thought a town was about it's People. Not just about some People. The right People. The decent People. The rich People. The poor People. These People or Those People.
Is the Unity of People not an Art too!
Blackburn has more reasons not to unite than ever before. Who comes up with these reasons. Who comes up with these differences.
The People of Blackburn.
I thought a town was about it's People. Not just about some People. The right People. The decent People. The rich People. The poor People. These People or Those People.
Is the Unity of People not an Art too!
Blackburn has more reasons not to unite than ever before. Who comes up with these reasons. Who comes up with these differences.
Posted by: simplysimon, burnley on 1:09pm Thu 10 Apr 08
If [bold]SIR[/bold] billy can have his benefits, why can the poor not have their benefits. If the rich have a [italic]right[/italic] to their benefits, why can the poor not have a [italic]right[/italic] to their benefit?
The rich will no doubt stay rich and the poor will no doubt stay poor.
Art has never been an object subject to ownership. It can be seen in private or it can be seen in public. I Like the [bold]shared[/bold] public version of Art.
If SIR billy can have his benefits, why can the poor not have their benefits. If the rich have a right to their benefits, why can the poor not have a right to their benefit?
The rich will no doubt stay rich and the poor will no doubt stay poor.
Art has never been an object subject to ownership. It can be seen in private or it can be seen in public. I Like the shared public version of Art.
Posted by: Nostradamos, Blackburn on 4:51pm Thu 10 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Bored[/bold] wrote:
Nostradamos - do you purely come on these just to moan and disagree, if you don\'t like them, don\'t read them - simple[/quote] Good god man,stop moaning and say something creative..lol..your just a boring old F"""..lol..
Bored wrote:
Nostradamos - do you purely come on these just to moan and disagree, if you don\'t like them, don\'t read them - simple
Good god man,stop moaning and say something creative..lol..your just a boring old F"""..lol..
Posted by: Johnnyboy, Blackburn on 5:03pm Thu 10 Apr 08
I think the whitebirk roundabout needs a 40 foot high Rovers badge on it for all our east lancashire visitors to ogle over as they come into town.
Art has to be a statement and Blackburn shouldnt under sell itself because of the self inflicted down trodden brigade but stand proud in the foothills of lancashire.
I think the whitebirk roundabout needs a 40 foot high Rovers badge on it for all our east lancashire visitors to ogle over as they come into town.
Art has to be a statement and Blackburn shouldnt under sell itself because of the self inflicted down trodden brigade but stand proud in the foothills of lancashire.
Posted by: Nostradamos, Blackburn on 8:33pm Thu 10 Apr 08
Now thats what i would call art Johnnyboy,a nice Blue and white player in all his glory to welcome our friends from the championship.:-),Riv
ersider myself been going man and boy since the fifties gone full circle we were good late 50s early 60s and now we have just been good for over 10yrs.in the middle still ok,we have never hit rock bottom like some club i know;-).COYBs..
Now thats what i would call art Johnnyboy,a nice Blue and white player in all his glory to welcome our friends from the championship.:-),Riv
ersider myself been going man and boy since the fifties gone full circle we were good late 50s early 60s and now we have just been good for over 10yrs.in the middle still ok,we have never hit rock bottom like some club i know;-).COYBs..
Posted by: simplysimon, burnley on 11:44am Fri 11 Apr 08
There should be more Public Art in Blackburn. More emphasis should be put on Public Art that appeals to not just one group. Football fans could express their Love for football.
[bold]Football Fans must be a form of Art.[/bold] Unless there is a serious point in 22 Men playing with one ball.
There should be more Public Art in Blackburn. More emphasis should be put on Public Art that appeals to not just one group. Football fans could express their Love for football.
Football Fans must be a form of Art. Unless there is a serious point in 22 Men playing with one ball.
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