Simon Garner column: West Ham risk all if they sack Allardyce

Former Rovers boss Sam Allardyce

Former Rovers boss Sam Allardyce

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IT’S a tough decision for West Ham to make over Sam Allardyce’s future.

There’s no doubt Rovers made a big mistake by firing him when they did.

I think they made the decision too hastily. It was when Venky’s first arrived and they were talking about signing this player and that player and qualifying for the Champions League.

To sack him and replace him with Steve Kean was wrong.

They should have waited until the end of that season and assessed it, and then thought about who else they could bring in as manager if they did want to make a change.

Sam always divides opinion with fans. He did that even when he was at Blackburn. You either love him or hate him, and at the moment a lot of the West Ham fans probably hate him.

If it was Crystal Palace, Stoke or Fulham they would probably be happy with staying in the Premier League, but West Ham fans are not happy to do just that. They want to play with style and push on.

If I was a West Ham would I be happy with Sam at the moment? I don’t know. But what he does do is he keeps teams in the Premier League.

If you get rid of him you never know what can happen.

West Ham are moving into a new stadium and financially they can’t afford to be moving into that stadium and not be in the Premier League, so it really is a tough decision for them.

Thankfully after the problems Rovers had after Sam left, they now have a manager who is doing a really good job in Gary Bowyer.

He must have reduced the wage bill a lot already and to do that and still improve results, he has done really well.

He has gone over to India to find out his budget from Venky’s, but I don’t think they need to add a lot this summer.

I don’t think he will have a lot of money to spend but I’m quite happy with the squad already.

That’s a great position to be in at this stage. The only thing is possibly Gary might want to just add a little bit more experience to it, particularly now Dunny is getting older.

Sometimes you just need that one player to guide a young squad.

I was stunned to hear this week that Franco Di Santo (pictured) has been named in Argentina’s provisional squad for the World Cup. When he was on loan at Ewood he didn’t look like a player who would get into Blackburn Rovers’ team, never mind Argentina’s team!

I fancied Argentina to win the World Cup this summer, but now I’m not so sure!

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4:59pm Fri 16 May 14

noddy57 says...

West ham think they are a big club and think they can attract a big name to the club,,they don, t like allardyce,s brand of football but it is effective and their league position proves that, be careful what you wish for.
West ham think they are a big club and think they can attract a big name to the club,,they don, t like allardyce,s brand of football but it is effective and their league position proves that, be careful what you wish for. noddy57
  • Score: 11

5:19pm Fri 16 May 14

kinbuckhammer says...

Sorry noddy but no we don't, i'd rather play in the championship with a team that sets up to try and win a game, than pay to watch crap week in week out with a manager who's first and only thought is how can we not lose this week. it's as simple as that
Sorry noddy but no we don't, i'd rather play in the championship with a team that sets up to try and win a game, than pay to watch crap week in week out with a manager who's first and only thought is how can we not lose this week. it's as simple as that kinbuckhammer
  • Score: 1

5:23pm Fri 16 May 14

kinbuckhammer says...

Sorry noddy but no we don't, we simply don't feel we have fallen far enough to have to settle for watching crap week in week out just to stay in the premier league. 16 teams stayed up this season and only one of them had to put up with Allardyce's one dimensional garbage. The man is a dinosaur and most west ham fans would be more than willing to risk relegation rather than put up with him for a minute longer.
Sorry noddy but no we don't, we simply don't feel we have fallen far enough to have to settle for watching crap week in week out just to stay in the premier league. 16 teams stayed up this season and only one of them had to put up with Allardyce's one dimensional garbage. The man is a dinosaur and most west ham fans would be more than willing to risk relegation rather than put up with him for a minute longer. kinbuckhammer
  • Score: 0

5:30pm Fri 16 May 14

French Rover says...

Perfect article for Bazzer to comment on ;-)

I say sack him as long as he doesnt come back here!
Perfect article for Bazzer to comment on ;-) I say sack him as long as he doesnt come back here! French Rover
  • Score: 0

5:35pm Fri 16 May 14

Bazzer says...

kinbuckhammer wrote:
Sorry noddy but no we don't, we simply don't feel we have fallen far enough to have to settle for watching crap week in week out just to stay in the premier league. 16 teams stayed up this season and only one of them had to put up with Allardyce's one dimensional garbage. The man is a dinosaur and most west ham fans would be more than willing to risk relegation rather than put up with him for a minute longer.
A half empty Ewood Park, a division below Burnley - and Brentford coming next year as opposed to Chelsea and the other big boys is a high price to pay for aesthetics.
[quote][p][bold]kinbuckhammer[/bold] wrote: Sorry noddy but no we don't, we simply don't feel we have fallen far enough to have to settle for watching crap week in week out just to stay in the premier league. 16 teams stayed up this season and only one of them had to put up with Allardyce's one dimensional garbage. The man is a dinosaur and most west ham fans would be more than willing to risk relegation rather than put up with him for a minute longer.[/p][/quote]A half empty Ewood Park, a division below Burnley - and Brentford coming next year as opposed to Chelsea and the other big boys is a high price to pay for aesthetics. Bazzer
  • Score: 13

5:56pm Fri 16 May 14

AnotherPounding4Burnley says...

Another club disliking the thud and rush of this football genius. There must be something in it.
Another club disliking the thud and rush of this football genius. There must be something in it. AnotherPounding4Burnley
  • Score: -3

7:48pm Fri 16 May 14

Bazzer says...

French Rover wrote:
Perfect article for Bazzer to comment on ;-) I say sack him as long as he doesnt come back here!
And do not forget Tony Pulis! Same style and approach. Both in the Top Flight. Whilst I admire your aesthetic optimism and you are buoyed by our showing at the end of last season.....check our history and see what has happened the next season each time we have finished 8th. THE CURSE OF EIGHTH!!!
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Perfect article for Bazzer to comment on ;-) I say sack him as long as he doesnt come back here![/p][/quote]And do not forget Tony Pulis! Same style and approach. Both in the Top Flight. Whilst I admire your aesthetic optimism and you are buoyed by our showing at the end of last season.....check our history and see what has happened the next season each time we have finished 8th. THE CURSE OF EIGHTH!!! Bazzer
  • Score: 6

8:29pm Fri 16 May 14

owd nick says...

French Rover wrote:
Perfect article for Bazzer to comment on ;-)

I say sack him as long as he doesnt come back here!
No way; keep him there and let them suffer for as long as possible.

Remember what they did to Sheffield United.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Perfect article for Bazzer to comment on ;-) I say sack him as long as he doesnt come back here![/p][/quote]No way; keep him there and let them suffer for as long as possible. Remember what they did to Sheffield United. owd nick
  • Score: 2

10:17pm Fri 16 May 14

jogalot says...

I can imagine Sam saying to his bosses how he'd keep them in the Premier League so go ahead and move into the new stadium. Financially it's difficult to see it adding up unless West Ham fulfill their true potential to become a top club. Being in London they can fill their new stadium if they can get in the top 6 and perhaps Sam has said he'll get them there. But he's had more money to spend and still plays the same style and it does not look like he'll ever change. So it's understandable for the fans to want rid. However, West Ham just received £73,671,003 from the Premier League and if they get this every year for finishing mid-table, perhaps the finances do add up. Personally, I think Sam won't always keep them up but West Ham will have to choose wisely when they replace him.
I can imagine Sam saying to his bosses how he'd keep them in the Premier League so go ahead and move into the new stadium. Financially it's difficult to see it adding up unless West Ham fulfill their true potential to become a top club. Being in London they can fill their new stadium if they can get in the top 6 and perhaps Sam has said he'll get them there. But he's had more money to spend and still plays the same style and it does not look like he'll ever change. So it's understandable for the fans to want rid. However, West Ham just received £73,671,003 from the Premier League and if they get this every year for finishing mid-table, perhaps the finances do add up. Personally, I think Sam won't always keep them up but West Ham will have to choose wisely when they replace him. jogalot
  • Score: 6

1:06am Sat 17 May 14

Maxrus says...

I was never a big Sam fan and was happy to see him go, there was only so much of his style of football I could take. I remember thinking at the time, walking down to Ewood on match days that it was more a call of duty as he'd drained away any excitement/anticipat
ion in the games. Appreciate however, the other side of the coin, that he had a good track record of keeping teams up but as they say, nothing in life is guaranteed and this certainly applies to football also.
I was never a big Sam fan and was happy to see him go, there was only so much of his style of football I could take. I remember thinking at the time, walking down to Ewood on match days that it was more a call of duty as he'd drained away any excitement/anticipat ion in the games. Appreciate however, the other side of the coin, that he had a good track record of keeping teams up but as they say, nothing in life is guaranteed and this certainly applies to football also. Maxrus
  • Score: 10

7:24am Sat 17 May 14

DanBlackburn says...

kinbuckhammer wrote:
Sorry noddy but no we don't, we simply don't feel we have fallen far enough to have to settle for watching crap week in week out just to stay in the premier league. 16 teams stayed up this season and only one of them had to put up with Allardyce's one dimensional garbage. The man is a dinosaur and most west ham fans would be more than willing to risk relegation rather than put up with him for a minute longer.
What a foolish post.
Despite his pragmatic approach allardyce was ideal for a club like rovers. I would rather be mid table premier league, the odd cup run and wins over the big boys that languishing where we are now. Like you the idiotic vermin Venkys thought they knew better and could do better without allardyce. They must be very proud of their achievements.
I would have him back at Ewood in a shot. He's respected in the game and breeds loyalty and commitment in his teams. You are a deluded fool.
[quote][p][bold]kinbuckhammer[/bold] wrote: Sorry noddy but no we don't, we simply don't feel we have fallen far enough to have to settle for watching crap week in week out just to stay in the premier league. 16 teams stayed up this season and only one of them had to put up with Allardyce's one dimensional garbage. The man is a dinosaur and most west ham fans would be more than willing to risk relegation rather than put up with him for a minute longer.[/p][/quote]What a foolish post. Despite his pragmatic approach allardyce was ideal for a club like rovers. I would rather be mid table premier league, the odd cup run and wins over the big boys that languishing where we are now. Like you the idiotic vermin Venkys thought they knew better and could do better without allardyce. They must be very proud of their achievements. I would have him back at Ewood in a shot. He's respected in the game and breeds loyalty and commitment in his teams. You are a deluded fool. DanBlackburn
  • Score: 10

7:38am Sat 17 May 14

A Darener says...

Maxrus wrote:
I was never a big Sam fan and was happy to see him go, there was only so much of his style of football I could take. I remember thinking at the time, walking down to Ewood on match days that it was more a call of duty as he'd drained away any excitement/anticipat

ion in the games. Appreciate however, the other side of the coin, that he had a good track record of keeping teams up but as they say, nothing in life is guaranteed and this certainly applies to football also.
Oh and you were filled with excitement after he left? The only anticipation was how many games would we lose? And we did.
[quote][p][bold]Maxrus[/bold] wrote: I was never a big Sam fan and was happy to see him go, there was only so much of his style of football I could take. I remember thinking at the time, walking down to Ewood on match days that it was more a call of duty as he'd drained away any excitement/anticipat ion in the games. Appreciate however, the other side of the coin, that he had a good track record of keeping teams up but as they say, nothing in life is guaranteed and this certainly applies to football also.[/p][/quote]Oh and you were filled with excitement after he left? The only anticipation was how many games would we lose? And we did. A Darener
  • Score: 2

8:40am Sat 17 May 14

owd nick says...

A Darener wrote:
Maxrus wrote:
I was never a big Sam fan and was happy to see him go, there was only so much of his style of football I could take. I remember thinking at the time, walking down to Ewood on match days that it was more a call of duty as he'd drained away any excitement/anticipat


ion in the games. Appreciate however, the other side of the coin, that he had a good track record of keeping teams up but as they say, nothing in life is guaranteed and this certainly applies to football also.
Oh and you were filled with excitement after he left? The only anticipation was how many games would we lose? And we did.
I agree with Maxrus Darener, as you well know, I also had got to the stage were I was seeing out my season ticket, I wasn't going to renew if he remained manager.

Yes I respect him for how he does his job, and for financial reasons at Rovers he was restricted to the type and quality of players he could bring in, all on big money I might add, 90% plus of all money earned in the PL under him went on player salaries, and that's just a conservative estimate.

But West Ham could have and should have been his opportunity to show he could he could change his style, they are a bigger, better supported club with assets far greater than Rovers ever had, even under Jack Walker.

And the fact the West Ham fans want him out even though he has kept them up speaks volumes, and everyone forgets Newcastle don't they?
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maxrus[/bold] wrote: I was never a big Sam fan and was happy to see him go, there was only so much of his style of football I could take. I remember thinking at the time, walking down to Ewood on match days that it was more a call of duty as he'd drained away any excitement/anticipat ion in the games. Appreciate however, the other side of the coin, that he had a good track record of keeping teams up but as they say, nothing in life is guaranteed and this certainly applies to football also.[/p][/quote]Oh and you were filled with excitement after he left? The only anticipation was how many games would we lose? And we did.[/p][/quote]I agree with Maxrus Darener, as you well know, I also had got to the stage were I was seeing out my season ticket, I wasn't going to renew if he remained manager. Yes I respect him for how he does his job, and for financial reasons at Rovers he was restricted to the type and quality of players he could bring in, all on big money I might add, 90% plus of all money earned in the PL under him went on player salaries, and that's just a conservative estimate. But West Ham could have and should have been his opportunity to show he could he could change his style, they are a bigger, better supported club with assets far greater than Rovers ever had, even under Jack Walker. And the fact the West Ham fans want him out even though he has kept them up speaks volumes, and everyone forgets Newcastle don't they? owd nick
  • Score: 2

9:25am Sat 17 May 14

French Rover says...

The fans at all his clubs (even Bolton eventually) wanted him out. He is a short term solution like taking a paracetamol maybe!
Yes his style of play/ management can keep a team just above the relegation spots but that same 'style' (or lack of) ends up killing all the supporters hopes and dreams for a season.
All fans have expectations (usually unrealistic) of what their team can achieve in a season - but BFS kills those hopes dead at club after club. It is no coincidence that football loving fans all his clubs turn against him.
The fans at all his clubs (even Bolton eventually) wanted him out. He is a short term solution like taking a paracetamol maybe! Yes his style of play/ management can keep a team just above the relegation spots but that same 'style' (or lack of) ends up killing all the supporters hopes and dreams for a season. All fans have expectations (usually unrealistic) of what their team can achieve in a season - but BFS kills those hopes dead at club after club. It is no coincidence that football loving fans all his clubs turn against him. French Rover
  • Score: 5

10:12am Sat 17 May 14

Bazzer says...

owd nick wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Maxrus wrote: I was never a big Sam fan and was happy to see him go, there was only so much of his style of football I could take. I remember thinking at the time, walking down to Ewood on match days that it was more a call of duty as he'd drained away any excitement/anticipat ion in the games. Appreciate however, the other side of the coin, that he had a good track record of keeping teams up but as they say, nothing in life is guaranteed and this certainly applies to football also.
Oh and you were filled with excitement after he left? The only anticipation was how many games would we lose? And we did.
I agree with Maxrus Darener, as you well know, I also had got to the stage were I was seeing out my season ticket, I wasn't going to renew if he remained manager. Yes I respect him for how he does his job, and for financial reasons at Rovers he was restricted to the type and quality of players he could bring in, all on big money I might add, 90% plus of all money earned in the PL under him went on player salaries, and that's just a conservative estimate. But West Ham could have and should have been his opportunity to show he could he could change his style, they are a bigger, better supported club with assets far greater than Rovers ever had, even under Jack Walker. And the fact the West Ham fans want him out even though he has kept them up speaks volumes, and everyone forgets Newcastle don't they?
Newcastle? The team went straight down after Big Sam was sacked.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maxrus[/bold] wrote: I was never a big Sam fan and was happy to see him go, there was only so much of his style of football I could take. I remember thinking at the time, walking down to Ewood on match days that it was more a call of duty as he'd drained away any excitement/anticipat ion in the games. Appreciate however, the other side of the coin, that he had a good track record of keeping teams up but as they say, nothing in life is guaranteed and this certainly applies to football also.[/p][/quote]Oh and you were filled with excitement after he left? The only anticipation was how many games would we lose? And we did.[/p][/quote]I agree with Maxrus Darener, as you well know, I also had got to the stage were I was seeing out my season ticket, I wasn't going to renew if he remained manager. Yes I respect him for how he does his job, and for financial reasons at Rovers he was restricted to the type and quality of players he could bring in, all on big money I might add, 90% plus of all money earned in the PL under him went on player salaries, and that's just a conservative estimate. But West Ham could have and should have been his opportunity to show he could he could change his style, they are a bigger, better supported club with assets far greater than Rovers ever had, even under Jack Walker. And the fact the West Ham fans want him out even though he has kept them up speaks volumes, and everyone forgets Newcastle don't they?[/p][/quote]Newcastle? The team went straight down after Big Sam was sacked. Bazzer
  • Score: 1

10:23am Sat 17 May 14

Bazzer says...

French Rover wrote:
The fans at all his clubs (even Bolton eventually) wanted him out. He is a short term solution like taking a paracetamol maybe! Yes his style of play/ management can keep a team just above the relegation spots but that same 'style' (or lack of) ends up killing all the supporters hopes and dreams for a season. All fans have expectations (usually unrealistic) of what their team can achieve in a season - but BFS kills those hopes dead at club after club. It is no coincidence that football loving fans all his clubs turn against him.
Remember we are Blackburn Rovers. No more no less. We are a team "like Millwall". (You said we were not). West Ham are streets ahead in terms of size and finance. Big Sam was just right for Rovers if we wanted to stay above our station in the top flight. That meant very little to you aesthetes. It did mean a lot to the rest of us as we stare at a half empty Ewood as Brentford take the field and Man Utd trot out at Turf Moor. You do not corner the market in "football loving" either. Up Rovers!
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: The fans at all his clubs (even Bolton eventually) wanted him out. He is a short term solution like taking a paracetamol maybe! Yes his style of play/ management can keep a team just above the relegation spots but that same 'style' (or lack of) ends up killing all the supporters hopes and dreams for a season. All fans have expectations (usually unrealistic) of what their team can achieve in a season - but BFS kills those hopes dead at club after club. It is no coincidence that football loving fans all his clubs turn against him.[/p][/quote]Remember we are Blackburn Rovers. No more no less. We are a team "like Millwall". (You said we were not). West Ham are streets ahead in terms of size and finance. Big Sam was just right for Rovers if we wanted to stay above our station in the top flight. That meant very little to you aesthetes. It did mean a lot to the rest of us as we stare at a half empty Ewood as Brentford take the field and Man Utd trot out at Turf Moor. You do not corner the market in "football loving" either. Up Rovers! Bazzer
  • Score: 0

10:34am Sat 17 May 14

Incest Each Sunday says...

Venky's biggest mistake was not the sacking of Allardyce, per say, but taking Jerome Anderson's advice and appointing his client, Steve Kean instead of a proven manager. Yes, we had a much better chance of staying up with Big Sam but we were by no means guaranteed Premier League survival, as some fans will try and lead us to believe.
Venky's biggest mistake was not the sacking of Allardyce, per say, but taking Jerome Anderson's advice and appointing his client, Steve Kean instead of a proven manager. Yes, we had a much better chance of staying up with Big Sam but we were by no means guaranteed Premier League survival, as some fans will try and lead us to believe. Incest Each Sunday
  • Score: 7

11:27am Sat 17 May 14

adcr says...

owd nick wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Perfect article for Bazzer to comment on ;-)

I say sack him as long as he doesnt come back here!
No way; keep him there and let them suffer for as long as possible.

Remember what they did to Sheffield United.
Remember also they won us the title. I know they gave their all because they hated Incey and didn't want him to win the title, but without the WHU's players giving everything, on that historic day we would never have won a title.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Perfect article for Bazzer to comment on ;-) I say sack him as long as he doesnt come back here![/p][/quote]No way; keep him there and let them suffer for as long as possible. Remember what they did to Sheffield United.[/p][/quote]Remember also they won us the title. I know they gave their all because they hated Incey and didn't want him to win the title, but without the WHU's players giving everything, on that historic day we would never have won a title. adcr
  • Score: 0

11:34am Sat 17 May 14

adcr says...

My opinion on Allardyce is he is a necessary evil for a small club like us to progress. Once you have an established premier league set up, and the right type of manager (entertaining football and ambitious) then becomes available and is willing to come to us, maybe get rid of Allardyce then. We wouldn't probably even need to sack Allardyce as there would be plenty of candidates of smaller teams needing a steady pair of hands willing to pay compensation to take him off our hands.
My opinion on Allardyce is he is a necessary evil for a small club like us to progress. Once you have an established premier league set up, and the right type of manager (entertaining football and ambitious) then becomes available and is willing to come to us, maybe get rid of Allardyce then. We wouldn't probably even need to sack Allardyce as there would be plenty of candidates of smaller teams needing a steady pair of hands willing to pay compensation to take him off our hands. adcr
  • Score: 0

2:01pm Sat 17 May 14

owd nick says...

Bazzer wrote:
owd nick wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Maxrus wrote: I was never a big Sam fan and was happy to see him go, there was only so much of his style of football I could take. I remember thinking at the time, walking down to Ewood on match days that it was more a call of duty as he'd drained away any excitement/anticipat ion in the games. Appreciate however, the other side of the coin, that he had a good track record of keeping teams up but as they say, nothing in life is guaranteed and this certainly applies to football also.
Oh and you were filled with excitement after he left? The only anticipation was how many games would we lose? And we did.
I agree with Maxrus Darener, as you well know, I also had got to the stage were I was seeing out my season ticket, I wasn't going to renew if he remained manager. Yes I respect him for how he does his job, and for financial reasons at Rovers he was restricted to the type and quality of players he could bring in, all on big money I might add, 90% plus of all money earned in the PL under him went on player salaries, and that's just a conservative estimate. But West Ham could have and should have been his opportunity to show he could he could change his style, they are a bigger, better supported club with assets far greater than Rovers ever had, even under Jack Walker. And the fact the West Ham fans want him out even though he has kept them up speaks volumes, and everyone forgets Newcastle don't they?
Newcastle? The team went straight down after Big Sam was sacked.
Yep, it's a common denominator isn't it?

The players remaining at every club he has managed can only play one way, hump upfield from the keeper, win the second ball and hope for the bagatelle effect in the box.

New guy comes in with instructions from the board or owners to play football, but the players can't do it, but they have 3 or 4 year contracts, club can't afford to buy more players, new manager is screwed; end of story.

And it all adds to the Allardyce reputation, or legend if you prefer.
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maxrus[/bold] wrote: I was never a big Sam fan and was happy to see him go, there was only so much of his style of football I could take. I remember thinking at the time, walking down to Ewood on match days that it was more a call of duty as he'd drained away any excitement/anticipat ion in the games. Appreciate however, the other side of the coin, that he had a good track record of keeping teams up but as they say, nothing in life is guaranteed and this certainly applies to football also.[/p][/quote]Oh and you were filled with excitement after he left? The only anticipation was how many games would we lose? And we did.[/p][/quote]I agree with Maxrus Darener, as you well know, I also had got to the stage were I was seeing out my season ticket, I wasn't going to renew if he remained manager. Yes I respect him for how he does his job, and for financial reasons at Rovers he was restricted to the type and quality of players he could bring in, all on big money I might add, 90% plus of all money earned in the PL under him went on player salaries, and that's just a conservative estimate. But West Ham could have and should have been his opportunity to show he could he could change his style, they are a bigger, better supported club with assets far greater than Rovers ever had, even under Jack Walker. And the fact the West Ham fans want him out even though he has kept them up speaks volumes, and everyone forgets Newcastle don't they?[/p][/quote]Newcastle? The team went straight down after Big Sam was sacked.[/p][/quote]Yep, it's a common denominator isn't it? The players remaining at every club he has managed can only play one way, hump upfield from the keeper, win the second ball and hope for the bagatelle effect in the box. New guy comes in with instructions from the board or owners to play football, but the players can't do it, but they have 3 or 4 year contracts, club can't afford to buy more players, new manager is screwed; end of story. And it all adds to the Allardyce reputation, or legend if you prefer. owd nick
  • Score: 1

6:19pm Sat 17 May 14

greenscreener says...

Reading the comments on here you would think that Allardyce was the only way to keep Rovers up, the reality is I enjoyed watching Hughes teams and what he achieved, a hell of a lot more than I ever did with Sam. The fact that Venkys were conned into appointing a fool doesn't mean a new manager wasn't a good idea.
Reading the comments on here you would think that Allardyce was the only way to keep Rovers up, the reality is I enjoyed watching Hughes teams and what he achieved, a hell of a lot more than I ever did with Sam. The fact that Venkys were conned into appointing a fool doesn't mean a new manager wasn't a good idea. greenscreener
  • Score: 5

9:50pm Sat 17 May 14

cornish rover says...

Hello from sunny France.
Short comment in support of Sam
The style of play he advocates is to primarily ensure survival ( we all know what the consequences of relegation are )
Once safety is assured the style changes into something different and more entertaining. Case in point,when at Bolton the latter part of the season they made Europe, they were good to watch. Remember Jay Jay Okocha ?
Sent from mobile after too much Sancerre !!
Rovers forever !
Hello Simon Garner . LEGEND !!
Hello from sunny France. Short comment in support of Sam The style of play he advocates is to primarily ensure survival ( we all know what the consequences of relegation are ) Once safety is assured the style changes into something different and more entertaining. Case in point,when at Bolton the latter part of the season they made Europe, they were good to watch. Remember Jay Jay Okocha ? Sent from mobile after too much Sancerre !! Rovers forever ! Hello Simon Garner . LEGEND !! cornish rover
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10:09pm Sat 17 May 14

Bazzer says...

greenscreener wrote:
Reading the comments on here you would think that Allardyce was the only way to keep Rovers up, the reality is I enjoyed watching Hughes teams and what he achieved, a hell of a lot more than I ever did with Sam. The fact that Venkys were conned into appointing a fool doesn't mean a new manager wasn't a good idea.
Stop kidding yourself and wipe the egg from your face. It has been there a long time now.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: Reading the comments on here you would think that Allardyce was the only way to keep Rovers up, the reality is I enjoyed watching Hughes teams and what he achieved, a hell of a lot more than I ever did with Sam. The fact that Venkys were conned into appointing a fool doesn't mean a new manager wasn't a good idea.[/p][/quote]Stop kidding yourself and wipe the egg from your face. It has been there a long time now. Bazzer
  • Score: -5

9:12am Sun 18 May 14

greenscreener says...

PMSL

oh dear Bazzer, you can throw insults around as much as you like but it won't change the fact that not everyone shares your delusion...

Hughes produced better results in both cup and league, and a team that was fitter and played more attractive football than the team that Allardyce managed.

Facts and opinions, something you can have an intelligent debate with, but if you are happy to stick with your insults you crack on Son.
PMSL oh dear Bazzer, you can throw insults around as much as you like but it won't change the fact that not everyone shares your delusion... Hughes produced better results in both cup and league, and a team that was fitter and played more attractive football than the team that Allardyce managed. Facts and opinions, something you can have an intelligent debate with, but if you are happy to stick with your insults you crack on Son. greenscreener
  • Score: 3

10:15am Sun 18 May 14

Roverthere says...

DanBlackburn wrote:
kinbuckhammer wrote:
Sorry noddy but no we don't, we simply don't feel we have fallen far enough to have to settle for watching crap week in week out just to stay in the premier league. 16 teams stayed up this season and only one of them had to put up with Allardyce's one dimensional garbage. The man is a dinosaur and most west ham fans would be more than willing to risk relegation rather than put up with him for a minute longer.
What a foolish post.
Despite his pragmatic approach allardyce was ideal for a club like rovers. I would rather be mid table premier league, the odd cup run and wins over the big boys that languishing where we are now. Like you the idiotic vermin Venkys thought they knew better and could do better without allardyce. They must be very proud of their achievements.
I would have him back at Ewood in a shot. He's respected in the game and breeds loyalty and commitment in his teams. You are a deluded fool.
I would also wecome him back. Sam was the man for Rovers and we lost him with idiotic decisions and clueless advice from advisors! Probably the worst financial decision in Rovers history to sack Sam at that time!
[quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kinbuckhammer[/bold] wrote: Sorry noddy but no we don't, we simply don't feel we have fallen far enough to have to settle for watching crap week in week out just to stay in the premier league. 16 teams stayed up this season and only one of them had to put up with Allardyce's one dimensional garbage. The man is a dinosaur and most west ham fans would be more than willing to risk relegation rather than put up with him for a minute longer.[/p][/quote]What a foolish post. Despite his pragmatic approach allardyce was ideal for a club like rovers. I would rather be mid table premier league, the odd cup run and wins over the big boys that languishing where we are now. Like you the idiotic vermin Venkys thought they knew better and could do better without allardyce. They must be very proud of their achievements. I would have him back at Ewood in a shot. He's respected in the game and breeds loyalty and commitment in his teams. You are a deluded fool.[/p][/quote]I would also wecome him back. Sam was the man for Rovers and we lost him with idiotic decisions and clueless advice from advisors! Probably the worst financial decision in Rovers history to sack Sam at that time! Roverthere
  • Score: 0

8:16am Mon 19 May 14

Super_Clarets says...

He was always too good for a no-mark club like Blackburn Rovers.

As was Steve Kean.

Gary Bowyer, is about right.

You are where you deserve to be, a division below Burnley.
He was always too good for a no-mark club like Blackburn Rovers. As was Steve Kean. Gary Bowyer, is about right. You are where you deserve to be, a division below Burnley. Super_Clarets
  • Score: -2

8:23am Mon 19 May 14

AnotherPounding4Burnley says...

Allardyces brand of football belongs on Blacksnape with the rain going horizontal and the only observer being a guy with labrador turd in a bag in his hand.
Allardyces brand of football belongs on Blacksnape with the rain going horizontal and the only observer being a guy with labrador turd in a bag in his hand. AnotherPounding4Burnley
  • Score: 1

9:29am Mon 19 May 14

Bazzer says...

greenscreener wrote:
PMSL oh dear Bazzer, you can throw insults around as much as you like but it won't change the fact that not everyone shares your delusion... Hughes produced better results in both cup and league, and a team that was fitter and played more attractive football than the team that Allardyce managed. Facts and opinions, something you can have an intelligent debate with, but if you are happy to stick with your insults you crack on Son.
Stop living in the past. The Rovers are without the financial clout they had when Hughes was in charge. It is supporters like yourself, who cannot see the big picture, who are a menace. And I will resist your the infantile urge to call you Boy........
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: PMSL oh dear Bazzer, you can throw insults around as much as you like but it won't change the fact that not everyone shares your delusion... Hughes produced better results in both cup and league, and a team that was fitter and played more attractive football than the team that Allardyce managed. Facts and opinions, something you can have an intelligent debate with, but if you are happy to stick with your insults you crack on Son.[/p][/quote]Stop living in the past. The Rovers are without the financial clout they had when Hughes was in charge. It is supporters like yourself, who cannot see the big picture, who are a menace. And I will resist your the infantile urge to call you Boy........ Bazzer
  • Score: 0

2:44pm Mon 19 May 14

greenscreener says...

Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
PMSL oh dear Bazzer, you can throw insults around as much as you like but it won't change the fact that not everyone shares your delusion... Hughes produced better results in both cup and league, and a team that was fitter and played more attractive football than the team that Allardyce managed. Facts and opinions, something you can have an intelligent debate with, but if you are happy to stick with your insults you crack on Son.
Stop living in the past. The Rovers are without the financial clout they had when Hughes was in charge. It is supporters like yourself, who cannot see the big picture, who are a menace. And I will resist your the infantile urge to call you Boy........
Lol, nice one Bazzer, every line a gem.....

Living in the past ? From someone who only contributes to these pages when the blessed Allardyce is mentioned

financial clout ? Check your history books, Hughes worked for the same Rovers Trust that employed Allardyce, he was just better at spotting a bargain

The bigger picture ? thats the one that has me as a Rovers fan supporting the club before, during and hopefully after Venkys stewardship, not constantly moaning about the demise of a manager who left 3 years ago.

Infantile ? Exactly how I rate your comments, nothing but insults and attempts to suppress people with opinions, time for you to grow up, Son.
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: PMSL oh dear Bazzer, you can throw insults around as much as you like but it won't change the fact that not everyone shares your delusion... Hughes produced better results in both cup and league, and a team that was fitter and played more attractive football than the team that Allardyce managed. Facts and opinions, something you can have an intelligent debate with, but if you are happy to stick with your insults you crack on Son.[/p][/quote]Stop living in the past. The Rovers are without the financial clout they had when Hughes was in charge. It is supporters like yourself, who cannot see the big picture, who are a menace. And I will resist your the infantile urge to call you Boy........[/p][/quote]Lol, nice one Bazzer, every line a gem..... Living in the past ? From someone who only contributes to these pages when the blessed Allardyce is mentioned financial clout ? Check your history books, Hughes worked for the same Rovers Trust that employed Allardyce, he was just better at spotting a bargain The bigger picture ? thats the one that has me as a Rovers fan supporting the club before, during and hopefully after Venkys stewardship, not constantly moaning about the demise of a manager who left 3 years ago. Infantile ? Exactly how I rate your comments, nothing but insults and attempts to suppress people with opinions, time for you to grow up, Son. greenscreener
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