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Shocking new figures reveal Blackburn's children are going hungry

Lancashire Telegraph: Blackburn's children most underweight in England Blackburn's children most underweight in England

HEALTH bosses have pledged to investigate new data showing alarming levels of malnutrition in primary school children in Blackburn and Darwen.

Childhood obesity has repeatedly been highlighted as a serious concern in the borough, and health chiefs stressed obesity remains a major problem, but the new statistics reveal a significant number of children at the opposite end of the scale.

It comes as thousands of families find themselves relying on emergency food parcels, with many youngsters at risk of going hungry in the holidays without their free school meals.

Data obtained from the Health and Social Care Information Centre (HSCIC), which looked at the Body Mass Index (BMI) of Year 6 children, showed 3.5 per cent were clinically underweight in Blackburn with Darwen in 2012/13, which equated to 66 pupils.

Assuming the figures are similar for other year groups, there will be about 400 children in the borough who are now at risk of malnutrition.

Dominic Harrison, the borough council’s director of public health, said his team would be looking closely at the issue in the next few weeks to ‘understand the full range of causes’.

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He added that malnutrition in children was ‘particularly concerning’ as it could have lifelong effects, increasing the risk of cardiovascular and other chronic diseases. Access to an adequate supply of food is the ‘most basic of human needs and rights’, he said.

Just 1.3 per cent of pupils across the North West and England were classed as underweight, which shows the extent of the problem in Blackburn with Darwen.

The only other boroughs in East Lancashire which were above the national average were Hyndburn and Pendle, with 1.4 per cent.

Burnley was 1.2 per cent, Ribble Valley 0.6 per cent, Chorley 1 per cent and Rossendale 1.1 per cent.

Mr Harrison said: “The fact that 3.5 per cent of Blackburn with Darwen’s Year 6 children are underweight is shocking, as in large part this should be preventable.

“I have no doubt that for some of these children the cause will simply be that they are not getting enough calories.

“Food poverty will be the prime cause and this is unfair, unjust and avoidable.

“Local authority areas with similar demographics such as Oldham and Bradford do have rates higher than the English average, but they are all much lower than Blackburn with Darwen, which now appears to have the highest percentage of underweight children in England.”

Unlike adults, a child’s BMI is classified using thresholds that vary to take into account the child’s age and sex.

Those in the bottom two per cent compared to a large reference population are classed as underweight.

Dr Javed Iqbal, clinical director for paediatrics at East Lancashire Hospitals NHS Trust, said underweight children often suffer from anaemia and Vitamin D deficiency, which impair the development of their brain and reduce their ability to maintain normal levels of activity.

Blackburn Foodbank, which has been backed by a Lancashire Telegraph campaign, has provided emergency food to more than 3,250 children since being launched in November 2012.

Project manager Ros Duerden said demand for the charity’s food parcels soars during the schools holidays, when they see a near 60 per cent increase in demand.

She said: “These figures don’t surprise me as we’ve seen a lot of kids who look like they could do with three square meals. We seem to be experiencing the effects of deprivation much quicker than other areas and I think we’re really on a knife edge here.

“We’ve lost a lot of semi-skilled jobs in this area, because the type of industry we’ve had has disappeared.”

She added: “There’s now a groundswell of people who don’t have the skills needed to access the kind of jobs that are available at the moment.”

Ron O’Keeffe, chairman of the council’s health scrutiny committee, called for more investment to create jobs, and suggested more help could be given to the food banks.

He said: “We know that many parents are feeding their kids junk food which is leading to high obesity rates, but these figures suggest there are many children who aren’t even getting that.

“There’s such a divide between the north and the south and the government has got to step in and do something about the deprivation here.

“It needs a major investment to create jobs.

“Many families are short of finance at the moment and can’t give their children a proper meal.

“There are lots of school breakfast clubs now, and of course free school meals, but some kids are missing out in the evenings and during holidays.

“Let’s look at what the Foodbank is doing and try and give them more support.”

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7:27am Tue 1 Apr 14

BuckoTheMoose says...

66 pupils across Blackburn and Darwen are underweight based on the discredited BMI? Nothing to see here then.

I get the impression some taxpayer funded lobby group is going to spring up and demand we pay up for more free stuff for feckless parents.
66 pupils across Blackburn and Darwen are underweight based on the discredited BMI? Nothing to see here then. I get the impression some taxpayer funded lobby group is going to spring up and demand we pay up for more free stuff for feckless parents. BuckoTheMoose
  • Score: 24

8:11am Tue 1 Apr 14

shytalk says...

No jobs, parents having benefits sanctioned so that jobcentre staff can achieve their performance figures,
http://intensiveacti
vity.wordpress.com/2
014/01/28/end-incent
ive-to-sanctions-say
-mps/
Foreign agency workers replacing British staff.
Do i need to go on?
Sadly there are still Tory plantation owners who think that starvation is the only way to get people back into non existent jobs and that those who are unemployed are scroungers.
They care little for anyone apart from themselves, and unfortunately many many children are now suffering as a result of Tory greed and corruption.
No jobs, parents having benefits sanctioned so that jobcentre staff can achieve their performance figures, http://intensiveacti vity.wordpress.com/2 014/01/28/end-incent ive-to-sanctions-say -mps/ Foreign agency workers replacing British staff. Do i need to go on? Sadly there are still Tory plantation owners who think that starvation is the only way to get people back into non existent jobs and that those who are unemployed are scroungers. They care little for anyone apart from themselves, and unfortunately many many children are now suffering as a result of Tory greed and corruption. shytalk
  • Score: 10

8:21am Tue 1 Apr 14

rudis_dad says...

Hands up all those parents who can't afford to feed the kids, but have a fridge full of cheap beer, a packet of Mayfair menthols every day and Sky TV? Hmm? I've no doubt that there are genuine cases, but I'll put money on them being in the minority.
Hands up all those parents who can't afford to feed the kids, but have a fridge full of cheap beer, a packet of Mayfair menthols every day and Sky TV? Hmm? I've no doubt that there are genuine cases, but I'll put money on them being in the minority. rudis_dad
  • Score: 50

8:48am Tue 1 Apr 14

shytalk says...

rudis_dad wrote:
Hands up all those parents who can't afford to feed the kids, but have a fridge full of cheap beer, a packet of Mayfair menthols every day and Sky TV? Hmm? I've no doubt that there are genuine cases, but I'll put money on them being in the minority.
Let you name and shame the parents then rudis=dad...That is if you can find any.
[quote][p][bold]rudis_dad[/bold] wrote: Hands up all those parents who can't afford to feed the kids, but have a fridge full of cheap beer, a packet of Mayfair menthols every day and Sky TV? Hmm? I've no doubt that there are genuine cases, but I'll put money on them being in the minority.[/p][/quote]Let you name and shame the parents then rudis=dad...That is if you can find any. shytalk
  • Score: -14

8:50am Tue 1 Apr 14

Keith Myath says...

Not surprising that some children are underweight. Just look at the size of most of the parents; no guessing as to who empties the fridge!
Not surprising that some children are underweight. Just look at the size of most of the parents; no guessing as to who empties the fridge! Keith Myath
  • Score: 32

9:34am Tue 1 Apr 14

karltop says...

shytalk wrote:
rudis_dad wrote:
Hands up all those parents who can't afford to feed the kids, but have a fridge full of cheap beer, a packet of Mayfair menthols every day and Sky TV? Hmm? I've no doubt that there are genuine cases, but I'll put money on them being in the minority.
Let you name and shame the parents then rudis=dad...That is if you can find any.
No. Show us the families with whom these kids are living and then we can get down to the facts.
[quote][p][bold]shytalk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rudis_dad[/bold] wrote: Hands up all those parents who can't afford to feed the kids, but have a fridge full of cheap beer, a packet of Mayfair menthols every day and Sky TV? Hmm? I've no doubt that there are genuine cases, but I'll put money on them being in the minority.[/p][/quote]Let you name and shame the parents then rudis=dad...That is if you can find any.[/p][/quote]No. Show us the families with whom these kids are living and then we can get down to the facts. karltop
  • Score: 15

9:35am Tue 1 Apr 14

woolywords says...

In all this assessing and measuring palaver, someone has patently forgotten to factor in the genotypes of these kids, where everyone is different, unique and an individual child.
If my assumption is correct, in that year 6 would be a bunch of 10 year olds then I only have to think back to my own childhood and recall those that were in my class. I was at the skinny end of the scale but there was one lad a lot thinner. Am not exaggerating if I said, laid down, he'd look like a toast rack but, this is what matters, he was as fit as a butchers dog. We had a fatty and a couple of chubby's but nothing that caused any concern. We had the twins, both fed the same, where one got a bit chubby and the other looked thin. We, none of us, looked in the least bit odd, at either end of the spectrum, so I really don't know what all the fuss is about here.
To be honest, kids have enough to cope with at school without giving them something else to worry about. And, I've only mentioned a bunch of typical lads of my own age. You really don't want to start mentioning weight gain or loss to girls of that age group, as they are already trying to cope with hormonal changes and freak out at the least little thing.
Whilst I accept that their health should be monitored, to make sure that they are developing properly but, for Heavens sake, don't go to the papers with the results, as this will cause a rash of bulemics, binge eaters or (and this does my head in) picky eaters.
As for me, at 15, I was described by an army medic as being underweight but he didn't know that I could eat 3 more spuds than a pig or that I used to do 2 paper rounds before going to school. I used to fly around that assault course like it was nothing, as others were needing oxygen tanks. At 21, I had an arm like a leg and was always hungry enough to be called 'Munch', as I was forever eating.
Kids is kids and they come in all shapes, sizes and now, colours so that we can tell which is ours and which is not. Leave them alone and go clone a few zygotes or something, if you want everything to look the same.
In all this assessing and measuring palaver, someone has patently forgotten to factor in the genotypes of these kids, where everyone is different, unique and an individual child. If my assumption is correct, in that year 6 would be a bunch of 10 year olds then I only have to think back to my own childhood and recall those that were in my class. I was at the skinny end of the scale but there was one lad a lot thinner. Am not exaggerating if I said, laid down, he'd look like a toast rack but, this is what matters, he was as fit as a butchers dog. We had a fatty and a couple of chubby's but nothing that caused any concern. We had the twins, both fed the same, where one got a bit chubby and the other looked thin. We, none of us, looked in the least bit odd, at either end of the spectrum, so I really don't know what all the fuss is about here. To be honest, kids have enough to cope with at school without giving them something else to worry about. And, I've only mentioned a bunch of typical lads of my own age. You really don't want to start mentioning weight gain or loss to girls of that age group, as they are already trying to cope with hormonal changes and freak out at the least little thing. Whilst I accept that their health should be monitored, to make sure that they are developing properly but, for Heavens sake, don't go to the papers with the results, as this will cause a rash of bulemics, binge eaters or (and this does my head in) picky eaters. As for me, at 15, I was described by an army medic as being underweight but he didn't know that I could eat 3 more spuds than a pig or that I used to do 2 paper rounds before going to school. I used to fly around that assault course like it was nothing, as others were needing oxygen tanks. At 21, I had an arm like a leg and was always hungry enough to be called 'Munch', as I was forever eating. Kids is kids and they come in all shapes, sizes and now, colours so that we can tell which is ours and which is not. Leave them alone and go clone a few zygotes or something, if you want everything to look the same. woolywords
  • Score: 25

9:49am Tue 1 Apr 14

shytalk says...

karltop wrote:
shytalk wrote:
rudis_dad wrote:
Hands up all those parents who can't afford to feed the kids, but have a fridge full of cheap beer, a packet of Mayfair menthols every day and Sky TV? Hmm? I've no doubt that there are genuine cases, but I'll put money on them being in the minority.
Let you name and shame the parents then rudis=dad...That is if you can find any.
No. Show us the families with whom these kids are living and then we can get down to the facts.
http://www.lancashir
e.gov.uk/corporate/w
eb/?siteid=6121&page
id=35474
[quote][p][bold]karltop[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shytalk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rudis_dad[/bold] wrote: Hands up all those parents who can't afford to feed the kids, but have a fridge full of cheap beer, a packet of Mayfair menthols every day and Sky TV? Hmm? I've no doubt that there are genuine cases, but I'll put money on them being in the minority.[/p][/quote]Let you name and shame the parents then rudis=dad...That is if you can find any.[/p][/quote]No. Show us the families with whom these kids are living and then we can get down to the facts.[/p][/quote]http://www.lancashir e.gov.uk/corporate/w eb/?siteid=6121&page id=35474 shytalk
  • Score: -4

10:08am Tue 1 Apr 14

vicn1956 says...

Dominic Harrison is the borough public health director YET NEEDED TO BE TOLD THESE FIGURES BY LT!!!!!!!!!
Can someone explain JUST WHAT HE IS BEING PAID TO DO!

Someone needs to get to the bottom of just what is happening and tell us in plain English what is the cause. (some people called obese are fit as butchers dogs and healthy. Some people's metabolism means they don't put on weight -so many don't trust the "experts.").
If poverty is the cause then all northern MP's should demand of Cameron what is his government going to do about it instead of preening themselves, scoring cheap political points and do what they were voted in to do!
Dominic Harrison is the borough public health director YET NEEDED TO BE TOLD THESE FIGURES BY LT!!!!!!!!! Can someone explain JUST WHAT HE IS BEING PAID TO DO! Someone needs to get to the bottom of just what is happening and tell us in plain English what is the cause. (some people called obese are fit as butchers dogs and healthy. Some people's metabolism means they don't put on weight -so many don't trust the "experts."). If poverty is the cause then all northern MP's should demand of Cameron what is his government going to do about it instead of preening themselves, scoring cheap political points and do what they were voted in to do! vicn1956
  • Score: 13

10:12am Tue 1 Apr 14

vicn1956 says...

The article in the paper states that "D.harrison thanked the LT for alerting him to the shocking figures." Why is the article above different?
The article in the paper states that "D.harrison thanked the LT for alerting him to the shocking figures." Why is the article above different? vicn1956
  • Score: -5

10:12am Tue 1 Apr 14

If_it's_not_broken_don't_fix_it says...

I work in a school and have noticed the number of children who are regularly hungry has increased dramatically in the last few years. In some cases it is because parents don't have the skills to manage their money properly as well as not having much money to start with. It's easy to be critical of parents - those of you that are have their reasons - but I doubt if you would ever deny a child something to eat if you saw them hungry, upset and able to concentrate. That is the problem.
I work in a school and have noticed the number of children who are regularly hungry has increased dramatically in the last few years. In some cases it is because parents don't have the skills to manage their money properly as well as not having much money to start with. It's easy to be critical of parents - those of you that are have their reasons - but I doubt if you would ever deny a child something to eat if you saw them hungry, upset and able to concentrate. That is the problem. If_it's_not_broken_don't_fix_it
  • Score: 12

10:16am Tue 1 Apr 14

karltop says...

If any child is underweight in this country it's a matter of child neglect. It is not the fault of an over-generous benefits system. BMI is a discredited measure anyhow, so this report is little more than leftist propaganda.
If any child is underweight in this country it's a matter of child neglect. It is not the fault of an over-generous benefits system. BMI is a discredited measure anyhow, so this report is little more than leftist propaganda. karltop
  • Score: 10

11:21am Tue 1 Apr 14

shytalk says...

karltop wrote:
If any child is underweight in this country it's a matter of child neglect. It is not the fault of an over-generous benefits system. BMI is a discredited measure anyhow, so this report is little more than leftist propaganda.
You would not have quite the same opinion if you had nothing to eat..It is nothing to do with leftist propaganda karltop. Children going hungry has nothing to do with any propaganda, just hard facts.
You can blame whichever political party you like but the fact remains kids are going hungry and the present government have been in power for 4yrs and things have got worse, not better for these children.
[quote][p][bold]karltop[/bold] wrote: If any child is underweight in this country it's a matter of child neglect. It is not the fault of an over-generous benefits system. BMI is a discredited measure anyhow, so this report is little more than leftist propaganda.[/p][/quote]You would not have quite the same opinion if you had nothing to eat..It is nothing to do with leftist propaganda karltop. Children going hungry has nothing to do with any propaganda, just hard facts. You can blame whichever political party you like but the fact remains kids are going hungry and the present government have been in power for 4yrs and things have got worse, not better for these children. shytalk
  • Score: 3

11:23am Tue 1 Apr 14

M.DANNY says...

We have worst underweight kids in country ? is it our generous benefit system failing ?
Some families have fags beer cans, Apple iphones and satellite tvs but no money for food for the kids ?
Why don't government introduce food vouchers so families can only spend them on food ?
We have worst underweight kids in country ? is it our generous benefit system failing ? Some families have fags beer cans, Apple iphones and satellite tvs but no money for food for the kids ? Why don't government introduce food vouchers so families can only spend them on food ? M.DANNY
  • Score: 31

11:26am Tue 1 Apr 14

karltop says...

shytalk wrote:
karltop wrote:
If any child is underweight in this country it's a matter of child neglect. It is not the fault of an over-generous benefits system. BMI is a discredited measure anyhow, so this report is little more than leftist propaganda.
You would not have quite the same opinion if you had nothing to eat..It is nothing to do with leftist propaganda karltop. Children going hungry has nothing to do with any propaganda, just hard facts.
You can blame whichever political party you like but the fact remains kids are going hungry and the present government have been in power for 4yrs and things have got worse, not better for these children.
Well, their parents benefits are going somewhere, obviously not on the kids. There is such a thing as "parental responsibilty", but the left prefer to blame the current government for the faults and failings of their feckless voters.
[quote][p][bold]shytalk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]karltop[/bold] wrote: If any child is underweight in this country it's a matter of child neglect. It is not the fault of an over-generous benefits system. BMI is a discredited measure anyhow, so this report is little more than leftist propaganda.[/p][/quote]You would not have quite the same opinion if you had nothing to eat..It is nothing to do with leftist propaganda karltop. Children going hungry has nothing to do with any propaganda, just hard facts. You can blame whichever political party you like but the fact remains kids are going hungry and the present government have been in power for 4yrs and things have got worse, not better for these children.[/p][/quote]Well, their parents benefits are going somewhere, obviously not on the kids. There is such a thing as "parental responsibilty", but the left prefer to blame the current government for the faults and failings of their feckless voters. karltop
  • Score: 12

11:36am Tue 1 Apr 14

shytalk says...

karltop wrote:
shytalk wrote:
karltop wrote:
If any child is underweight in this country it's a matter of child neglect. It is not the fault of an over-generous benefits system. BMI is a discredited measure anyhow, so this report is little more than leftist propaganda.
You would not have quite the same opinion if you had nothing to eat..It is nothing to do with leftist propaganda karltop. Children going hungry has nothing to do with any propaganda, just hard facts.
You can blame whichever political party you like but the fact remains kids are going hungry and the present government have been in power for 4yrs and things have got worse, not better for these children.
Well, their parents benefits are going somewhere, obviously not on the kids. There is such a thing as "parental responsibilty", but the left prefer to blame the current government for the faults and failings of their feckless voters.
You might find this interesting.

http://www.jrf.org.u
k/blog/2013/06/worst
-five-years-struggli
ng-families
[quote][p][bold]karltop[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shytalk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]karltop[/bold] wrote: If any child is underweight in this country it's a matter of child neglect. It is not the fault of an over-generous benefits system. BMI is a discredited measure anyhow, so this report is little more than leftist propaganda.[/p][/quote]You would not have quite the same opinion if you had nothing to eat..It is nothing to do with leftist propaganda karltop. Children going hungry has nothing to do with any propaganda, just hard facts. You can blame whichever political party you like but the fact remains kids are going hungry and the present government have been in power for 4yrs and things have got worse, not better for these children.[/p][/quote]Well, their parents benefits are going somewhere, obviously not on the kids. There is such a thing as "parental responsibilty", but the left prefer to blame the current government for the faults and failings of their feckless voters.[/p][/quote]You might find this interesting. http://www.jrf.org.u k/blog/2013/06/worst -five-years-struggli ng-families shytalk
  • Score: 3

11:45am Tue 1 Apr 14

karltop says...

Stop quoting left-wing pressure groups and charities. You can't hide the facts.
Stop quoting left-wing pressure groups and charities. You can't hide the facts. karltop
  • Score: 6

12:05pm Tue 1 Apr 14

karltop says...

http://www.thisislan
cashire.co.uk/news/1
1111867.Nine_month_o
ld_baby_left__severe
ly_emaciated__by_Bla
ckburn_parents/?ref=
ar


Well. These lovely people account for 1 of the children.
http://www.thisislan cashire.co.uk/news/1 1111867.Nine_month_o ld_baby_left__severe ly_emaciated__by_Bla ckburn_parents/?ref= ar Well. These lovely people account for 1 of the children. karltop
  • Score: 5

12:07pm Tue 1 Apr 14

flagstone says...

rudis_dad wrote:
Hands up all those parents who can't afford to feed the kids, but have a fridge full of cheap beer, a packet of Mayfair menthols every day and Sky TV? Hmm? I've no doubt that there are genuine cases, but I'll put money on them being in the minority.
And a bloody great Staffordshire bull terrier or rotty to eat into the house keeping money , pathetic....
[quote][p][bold]rudis_dad[/bold] wrote: Hands up all those parents who can't afford to feed the kids, but have a fridge full of cheap beer, a packet of Mayfair menthols every day and Sky TV? Hmm? I've no doubt that there are genuine cases, but I'll put money on them being in the minority.[/p][/quote]And a bloody great Staffordshire bull terrier or rotty to eat into the house keeping money , pathetic.... flagstone
  • Score: 17

12:15pm Tue 1 Apr 14

shytalk says...

karltop wrote:
Stop quoting left-wing pressure groups and charities. You can't hide the facts.
Neither can you.
meet some of the people you would like to tread on.
1 http://www.theguardi
an.com/money/2014/ma
r/17/young-people-cu
ts-benefits-unemploy
ment-housing

2 http://blogs.channel
4.com/jackie-long-on
-social-affairs/grow
ing-number-hungry-ch
ildren-poverty-brita
in/858

3 http://www.carers.or
g/press-release/brok
e-and-broken-carers-
battle-poverty-and-d
epression

These are jut examples...Not left wing pressure groups, but the result of corrupt Tory government that would rather give billions away in foreign aid to third world dictators, and supports the obscene bonuses of CEO's and bankers whilst allowing multi nationals to get away with tax evasion.
Anything but help the poor of this country and anything to line their own pockets.
[quote][p][bold]karltop[/bold] wrote: Stop quoting left-wing pressure groups and charities. You can't hide the facts.[/p][/quote]Neither can you. meet some of the people you would like to tread on. 1 http://www.theguardi an.com/money/2014/ma r/17/young-people-cu ts-benefits-unemploy ment-housing 2 http://blogs.channel 4.com/jackie-long-on -social-affairs/grow ing-number-hungry-ch ildren-poverty-brita in/858 3 http://www.carers.or g/press-release/brok e-and-broken-carers- battle-poverty-and-d epression These are jut examples...Not left wing pressure groups, but the result of corrupt Tory government that would rather give billions away in foreign aid to third world dictators, and supports the obscene bonuses of CEO's and bankers whilst allowing multi nationals to get away with tax evasion. Anything but help the poor of this country and anything to line their own pockets. shytalk
  • Score: 1

12:18pm Tue 1 Apr 14

zabby says...

Some of these people ,buy alcohol,fags and weed every day it's down to priorities ,feed kids or get off your head,...?????
Some of these people ,buy alcohol,fags and weed every day it's down to priorities ,feed kids or get off your head,...????? zabby
  • Score: 8

12:19pm Tue 1 Apr 14

karltop says...

shytalk wrote:
karltop wrote:
Stop quoting left-wing pressure groups and charities. You can't hide the facts.
Neither can you.
meet some of the people you would like to tread on.
1 http://www.theguardi

an.com/money/2014/ma

r/17/young-people-cu

ts-benefits-unemploy

ment-housing

2 http://blogs.channel

4.com/jackie-long-on

-social-affairs/grow

ing-number-hungry-ch

ildren-poverty-brita

in/858

3 http://www.carers.or

g/press-release/brok

e-and-broken-carers-

battle-poverty-and-d

epression

These are jut examples...Not left wing pressure groups, but the result of corrupt Tory government that would rather give billions away in foreign aid to third world dictators, and supports the obscene bonuses of CEO's and bankers whilst allowing multi nationals to get away with tax evasion.
Anything but help the poor of this country and anything to line their own pockets.
The Guardian? Give me strength. You just undermined your whole argument. Not that you had one in the first place!
[quote][p][bold]shytalk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]karltop[/bold] wrote: Stop quoting left-wing pressure groups and charities. You can't hide the facts.[/p][/quote]Neither can you. meet some of the people you would like to tread on. 1 http://www.theguardi an.com/money/2014/ma r/17/young-people-cu ts-benefits-unemploy ment-housing 2 http://blogs.channel 4.com/jackie-long-on -social-affairs/grow ing-number-hungry-ch ildren-poverty-brita in/858 3 http://www.carers.or g/press-release/brok e-and-broken-carers- battle-poverty-and-d epression These are jut examples...Not left wing pressure groups, but the result of corrupt Tory government that would rather give billions away in foreign aid to third world dictators, and supports the obscene bonuses of CEO's and bankers whilst allowing multi nationals to get away with tax evasion. Anything but help the poor of this country and anything to line their own pockets.[/p][/quote]The Guardian? Give me strength. You just undermined your whole argument. Not that you had one in the first place! karltop
  • Score: -3

12:53pm Tue 1 Apr 14

shytalk says...

karltop wrote:
shytalk wrote:
karltop wrote:
Stop quoting left-wing pressure groups and charities. You can't hide the facts.
Neither can you.
meet some of the people you would like to tread on.
1 http://www.theguardi


an.com/money/2014/ma


r/17/young-people-cu


ts-benefits-unemploy


ment-housing

2 http://blogs.channel


4.com/jackie-long-on


-social-affairs/grow


ing-number-hungry-ch


ildren-poverty-brita


in/858

3 http://www.carers.or


g/press-release/brok


e-and-broken-carers-


battle-poverty-and-d


epression

These are jut examples...Not left wing pressure groups, but the result of corrupt Tory government that would rather give billions away in foreign aid to third world dictators, and supports the obscene bonuses of CEO's and bankers whilst allowing multi nationals to get away with tax evasion.
Anything but help the poor of this country and anything to line their own pockets.
The Guardian? Give me strength. You just undermined your whole argument. Not that you had one in the first place!
Lets see your evidence. At least i provided some based on research.
As for me being left wing?
Sorry i support a party based on common sense and not greed.
UKIP
[quote][p][bold]karltop[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shytalk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]karltop[/bold] wrote: Stop quoting left-wing pressure groups and charities. You can't hide the facts.[/p][/quote]Neither can you. meet some of the people you would like to tread on. 1 http://www.theguardi an.com/money/2014/ma r/17/young-people-cu ts-benefits-unemploy ment-housing 2 http://blogs.channel 4.com/jackie-long-on -social-affairs/grow ing-number-hungry-ch ildren-poverty-brita in/858 3 http://www.carers.or g/press-release/brok e-and-broken-carers- battle-poverty-and-d epression These are jut examples...Not left wing pressure groups, but the result of corrupt Tory government that would rather give billions away in foreign aid to third world dictators, and supports the obscene bonuses of CEO's and bankers whilst allowing multi nationals to get away with tax evasion. Anything but help the poor of this country and anything to line their own pockets.[/p][/quote]The Guardian? Give me strength. You just undermined your whole argument. Not that you had one in the first place![/p][/quote]Lets see your evidence. At least i provided some based on research. As for me being left wing? Sorry i support a party based on common sense and not greed. UKIP shytalk
  • Score: -6

1:25pm Tue 1 Apr 14

louderfasterlonger says...

woolywords wrote:
In all this assessing and measuring palaver, someone has patently forgotten to factor in the genotypes of these kids, where everyone is different, unique and an individual child.
If my assumption is correct, in that year 6 would be a bunch of 10 year olds then I only have to think back to my own childhood and recall those that were in my class. I was at the skinny end of the scale but there was one lad a lot thinner. Am not exaggerating if I said, laid down, he'd look like a toast rack but, this is what matters, he was as fit as a butchers dog. We had a fatty and a couple of chubby's but nothing that caused any concern. We had the twins, both fed the same, where one got a bit chubby and the other looked thin. We, none of us, looked in the least bit odd, at either end of the spectrum, so I really don't know what all the fuss is about here.
To be honest, kids have enough to cope with at school without giving them something else to worry about. And, I've only mentioned a bunch of typical lads of my own age. You really don't want to start mentioning weight gain or loss to girls of that age group, as they are already trying to cope with hormonal changes and freak out at the least little thing.
Whilst I accept that their health should be monitored, to make sure that they are developing properly but, for Heavens sake, don't go to the papers with the results, as this will cause a rash of bulemics, binge eaters or (and this does my head in) picky eaters.
As for me, at 15, I was described by an army medic as being underweight but he didn't know that I could eat 3 more spuds than a pig or that I used to do 2 paper rounds before going to school. I used to fly around that assault course like it was nothing, as others were needing oxygen tanks. At 21, I had an arm like a leg and was always hungry enough to be called 'Munch', as I was forever eating.
Kids is kids and they come in all shapes, sizes and now, colours so that we can tell which is ours and which is not. Leave them alone and go clone a few zygotes or something, if you want everything to look the same.
Wisewords, you actually read the article this time. There are better ways of testing a childs nutritional condition than simply weighing them. Children develop at different ages. I'd swear the captain of our school football team was two years older than the rest of us.
Personally, I was a skinny faddy kid but always with loads (too much sometimes) of energy.
Testing for malnutrition involves a whole host of considerations, lethargy, drawn faces for example are telling signs. It would be interesting to measure the demographic clusters of such children and target specific areas. I am assuming of course that the clusters will show up in areas of high child poverty such as Sudell, Shadsworth and Audley.
[quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: In all this assessing and measuring palaver, someone has patently forgotten to factor in the genotypes of these kids, where everyone is different, unique and an individual child. If my assumption is correct, in that year 6 would be a bunch of 10 year olds then I only have to think back to my own childhood and recall those that were in my class. I was at the skinny end of the scale but there was one lad a lot thinner. Am not exaggerating if I said, laid down, he'd look like a toast rack but, this is what matters, he was as fit as a butchers dog. We had a fatty and a couple of chubby's but nothing that caused any concern. We had the twins, both fed the same, where one got a bit chubby and the other looked thin. We, none of us, looked in the least bit odd, at either end of the spectrum, so I really don't know what all the fuss is about here. To be honest, kids have enough to cope with at school without giving them something else to worry about. And, I've only mentioned a bunch of typical lads of my own age. You really don't want to start mentioning weight gain or loss to girls of that age group, as they are already trying to cope with hormonal changes and freak out at the least little thing. Whilst I accept that their health should be monitored, to make sure that they are developing properly but, for Heavens sake, don't go to the papers with the results, as this will cause a rash of bulemics, binge eaters or (and this does my head in) picky eaters. As for me, at 15, I was described by an army medic as being underweight but he didn't know that I could eat 3 more spuds than a pig or that I used to do 2 paper rounds before going to school. I used to fly around that assault course like it was nothing, as others were needing oxygen tanks. At 21, I had an arm like a leg and was always hungry enough to be called 'Munch', as I was forever eating. Kids is kids and they come in all shapes, sizes and now, colours so that we can tell which is ours and which is not. Leave them alone and go clone a few zygotes or something, if you want everything to look the same.[/p][/quote]Wisewords, you actually read the article this time. There are better ways of testing a childs nutritional condition than simply weighing them. Children develop at different ages. I'd swear the captain of our school football team was two years older than the rest of us. Personally, I was a skinny faddy kid but always with loads (too much sometimes) of energy. Testing for malnutrition involves a whole host of considerations, lethargy, drawn faces for example are telling signs. It would be interesting to measure the demographic clusters of such children and target specific areas. I am assuming of course that the clusters will show up in areas of high child poverty such as Sudell, Shadsworth and Audley. louderfasterlonger
  • Score: 4

1:38pm Tue 1 Apr 14

louderfasterlonger says...

louderfasterlonger wrote:
woolywords wrote:
In all this assessing and measuring palaver, someone has patently forgotten to factor in the genotypes of these kids, where everyone is different, unique and an individual child.
If my assumption is correct, in that year 6 would be a bunch of 10 year olds then I only have to think back to my own childhood and recall those that were in my class. I was at the skinny end of the scale but there was one lad a lot thinner. Am not exaggerating if I said, laid down, he'd look like a toast rack but, this is what matters, he was as fit as a butchers dog. We had a fatty and a couple of chubby's but nothing that caused any concern. We had the twins, both fed the same, where one got a bit chubby and the other looked thin. We, none of us, looked in the least bit odd, at either end of the spectrum, so I really don't know what all the fuss is about here.
To be honest, kids have enough to cope with at school without giving them something else to worry about. And, I've only mentioned a bunch of typical lads of my own age. You really don't want to start mentioning weight gain or loss to girls of that age group, as they are already trying to cope with hormonal changes and freak out at the least little thing.
Whilst I accept that their health should be monitored, to make sure that they are developing properly but, for Heavens sake, don't go to the papers with the results, as this will cause a rash of bulemics, binge eaters or (and this does my head in) picky eaters.
As for me, at 15, I was described by an army medic as being underweight but he didn't know that I could eat 3 more spuds than a pig or that I used to do 2 paper rounds before going to school. I used to fly around that assault course like it was nothing, as others were needing oxygen tanks. At 21, I had an arm like a leg and was always hungry enough to be called 'Munch', as I was forever eating.
Kids is kids and they come in all shapes, sizes and now, colours so that we can tell which is ours and which is not. Leave them alone and go clone a few zygotes or something, if you want everything to look the same.
Wisewords, you actually read the article this time. There are better ways of testing a childs nutritional condition than simply weighing them. Children develop at different ages. I'd swear the captain of our school football team was two years older than the rest of us.
Personally, I was a skinny faddy kid but always with loads (too much sometimes) of energy.
Testing for malnutrition involves a whole host of considerations, lethargy, drawn faces for example are telling signs. It would be interesting to measure the demographic clusters of such children and target specific areas. I am assuming of course that the clusters will show up in areas of high child poverty such as Sudell, Shadsworth and Audley.
It would also be interesting to find out how many children are from working families in poverty and then look at the effects that the Universal Credit will have on that family's income.
Aside from the comments of some on here that parents are feckless, Sixty six children will come from sixty six very different personal circumstances.
[quote][p][bold]louderfasterlonger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: In all this assessing and measuring palaver, someone has patently forgotten to factor in the genotypes of these kids, where everyone is different, unique and an individual child. If my assumption is correct, in that year 6 would be a bunch of 10 year olds then I only have to think back to my own childhood and recall those that were in my class. I was at the skinny end of the scale but there was one lad a lot thinner. Am not exaggerating if I said, laid down, he'd look like a toast rack but, this is what matters, he was as fit as a butchers dog. We had a fatty and a couple of chubby's but nothing that caused any concern. We had the twins, both fed the same, where one got a bit chubby and the other looked thin. We, none of us, looked in the least bit odd, at either end of the spectrum, so I really don't know what all the fuss is about here. To be honest, kids have enough to cope with at school without giving them something else to worry about. And, I've only mentioned a bunch of typical lads of my own age. You really don't want to start mentioning weight gain or loss to girls of that age group, as they are already trying to cope with hormonal changes and freak out at the least little thing. Whilst I accept that their health should be monitored, to make sure that they are developing properly but, for Heavens sake, don't go to the papers with the results, as this will cause a rash of bulemics, binge eaters or (and this does my head in) picky eaters. As for me, at 15, I was described by an army medic as being underweight but he didn't know that I could eat 3 more spuds than a pig or that I used to do 2 paper rounds before going to school. I used to fly around that assault course like it was nothing, as others were needing oxygen tanks. At 21, I had an arm like a leg and was always hungry enough to be called 'Munch', as I was forever eating. Kids is kids and they come in all shapes, sizes and now, colours so that we can tell which is ours and which is not. Leave them alone and go clone a few zygotes or something, if you want everything to look the same.[/p][/quote]Wisewords, you actually read the article this time. There are better ways of testing a childs nutritional condition than simply weighing them. Children develop at different ages. I'd swear the captain of our school football team was two years older than the rest of us. Personally, I was a skinny faddy kid but always with loads (too much sometimes) of energy. Testing for malnutrition involves a whole host of considerations, lethargy, drawn faces for example are telling signs. It would be interesting to measure the demographic clusters of such children and target specific areas. I am assuming of course that the clusters will show up in areas of high child poverty such as Sudell, Shadsworth and Audley.[/p][/quote]It would also be interesting to find out how many children are from working families in poverty and then look at the effects that the Universal Credit will have on that family's income. Aside from the comments of some on here that parents are feckless, Sixty six children will come from sixty six very different personal circumstances. louderfasterlonger
  • Score: 11

4:40pm Tue 1 Apr 14

grumpyoldlady says...

I have two children, when they were small one was extremely thin and the other well built. They were both well nourished and had two home cooked meals each day (they came home from school at lunchtime). They both took part in lots of sports activities and were perfectly healthy. According to this report one would have been malnourished. Like one of the above posts says, children come in all shapes and sizes. My thin child didn't begin to fill out until he was around 20 years of age and the reason for this? One child takes after my family and the other my husband's family - simple.
I have two children, when they were small one was extremely thin and the other well built. They were both well nourished and had two home cooked meals each day (they came home from school at lunchtime). They both took part in lots of sports activities and were perfectly healthy. According to this report one would have been malnourished. Like one of the above posts says, children come in all shapes and sizes. My thin child didn't begin to fill out until he was around 20 years of age and the reason for this? One child takes after my family and the other my husband's family - simple. grumpyoldlady
  • Score: 9

5:16pm Tue 1 Apr 14

DoggydogNo1 says...

1 story states underweight another obese? which one is it then?
1 story states underweight another obese? which one is it then? DoggydogNo1
  • Score: 6

5:47pm Tue 1 Apr 14

phil kernot says...

No excuse for it bad parenting full stop ,, watch the wingers start with can't afford to feed em rant but I can afford nice mobile phone , sky tv and fags and beer ,, should get your priorys
right ,,,
Its a fact some people have kids because the goverments on your back to get a job , so what have some pride and get one , no matter if its hard work ,,,
No excuse for it bad parenting full stop ,, watch the wingers start with can't afford to feed em rant but I can afford nice mobile phone , sky tv and fags and beer ,, should get your priorys right ,,, Its a fact some people have kids because the goverments on your back to get a job , so what have some pride and get one , no matter if its hard work ,,, phil kernot
  • Score: 9

8:01pm Tue 1 Apr 14

POW WOW says...

I don't thing there's a real need to be concerned about underweight kids in Blackburn otherwise they'd surely be advertising them on the Sky news commercial breaks instead of them African kids.
I don't thing there's a real need to be concerned about underweight kids in Blackburn otherwise they'd surely be advertising them on the Sky news commercial breaks instead of them African kids. POW WOW
  • Score: 8

10:28pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Mr.J.Jambone says...

shytalk wrote:
karltop wrote:
If any child is underweight in this country it's a matter of child neglect. It is not the fault of an over-generous benefits system. BMI is a discredited measure anyhow, so this report is little more than leftist propaganda.
You would not have quite the same opinion if you had nothing to eat..It is nothing to do with leftist propaganda karltop. Children going hungry has nothing to do with any propaganda, just hard facts.
You can blame whichever political party you like but the fact remains kids are going hungry and the present government have been in power for 4yrs and things have got worse, not better for these children.
It's got everything to do with leftists propaganda. Use a hysterical emotional argument to orchestrate a transfer of wealth.
[quote][p][bold]shytalk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]karltop[/bold] wrote: If any child is underweight in this country it's a matter of child neglect. It is not the fault of an over-generous benefits system. BMI is a discredited measure anyhow, so this report is little more than leftist propaganda.[/p][/quote]You would not have quite the same opinion if you had nothing to eat..It is nothing to do with leftist propaganda karltop. Children going hungry has nothing to do with any propaganda, just hard facts. You can blame whichever political party you like but the fact remains kids are going hungry and the present government have been in power for 4yrs and things have got worse, not better for these children.[/p][/quote]It's got everything to do with leftists propaganda. Use a hysterical emotional argument to orchestrate a transfer of wealth. Mr.J.Jambone
  • Score: 5

10:59pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Darwen Malc says...

Has everyone forgotten how to cook on a budget? Or has no one been shown?
Slow Cooker + Lots of healthy veg + pulses, barley, lentils + (if you're not veggie) a cheap cut of meat or even a chicken carcass. Really tasty broth. Throw in some dumplings (ready mix is cheap if your not sure how to make some) and there you go, good nutritious cheap meal. Eggs, or Cheese, or beans on toast. Omelettes with different fillings. Bangers and mash, there are lots and lots of relatively cheap meals that you can make if you have the where-how and determination. Stop blaming the politicians (of any party) as an excuse for letting off the feckless!
Has everyone forgotten how to cook on a budget? Or has no one been shown? Slow Cooker + Lots of healthy veg + pulses, barley, lentils + (if you're not veggie) a cheap cut of meat or even a chicken carcass. Really tasty broth. Throw in some dumplings (ready mix is cheap if your not sure how to make some) and there you go, good nutritious cheap meal. Eggs, or Cheese, or beans on toast. Omelettes with different fillings. Bangers and mash, there are lots and lots of relatively cheap meals that you can make if you have the where-how and determination. Stop blaming the politicians (of any party) as an excuse for letting off the feckless! Darwen Malc
  • Score: 8

6:41am Wed 2 Apr 14

Lancs Away says...

woolywords wrote:
In all this assessing and measuring palaver, someone has patently forgotten to factor in the genotypes of these kids, where everyone is different, unique and an individual child. If my assumption is correct, in that year 6 would be a bunch of 10 year olds then I only have to think back to my own childhood and recall those that were in my class. I was at the skinny end of the scale but there was one lad a lot thinner. Am not exaggerating if I said, laid down, he'd look like a toast rack but, this is what matters, he was as fit as a butchers dog. We had a fatty and a couple of chubby's but nothing that caused any concern. We had the twins, both fed the same, where one got a bit chubby and the other looked thin. We, none of us, looked in the least bit odd, at either end of the spectrum, so I really don't know what all the fuss is about here. To be honest, kids have enough to cope with at school without giving them something else to worry about. And, I've only mentioned a bunch of typical lads of my own age. You really don't want to start mentioning weight gain or loss to girls of that age group, as they are already trying to cope with hormonal changes and freak out at the least little thing. Whilst I accept that their health should be monitored, to make sure that they are developing properly but, for Heavens sake, don't go to the papers with the results, as this will cause a rash of bulemics, binge eaters or (and this does my head in) picky eaters. As for me, at 15, I was described by an army medic as being underweight but he didn't know that I could eat 3 more spuds than a pig or that I used to do 2 paper rounds before going to school. I used to fly around that assault course like it was nothing, as others were needing oxygen tanks. At 21, I had an arm like a leg and was always hungry enough to be called 'Munch', as I was forever eating. Kids is kids and they come in all shapes, sizes and now, colours so that we can tell which is ours and which is not. Leave them alone and go clone a few zygotes or something, if you want everything to look the same.
woolywords and rudis_dad all true words, which of course some people won't like because they are probably beer swilling, cigarette smoking, fast food eating, Sky TV watching mingers who neglect their children but really believe that they are caring for them 100%....it is all down to the parents, whether it is being underfed, bad manners, skipping school, stealing....it all starts at home, you cannot blame anyone else
[quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: In all this assessing and measuring palaver, someone has patently forgotten to factor in the genotypes of these kids, where everyone is different, unique and an individual child. If my assumption is correct, in that year 6 would be a bunch of 10 year olds then I only have to think back to my own childhood and recall those that were in my class. I was at the skinny end of the scale but there was one lad a lot thinner. Am not exaggerating if I said, laid down, he'd look like a toast rack but, this is what matters, he was as fit as a butchers dog. We had a fatty and a couple of chubby's but nothing that caused any concern. We had the twins, both fed the same, where one got a bit chubby and the other looked thin. We, none of us, looked in the least bit odd, at either end of the spectrum, so I really don't know what all the fuss is about here. To be honest, kids have enough to cope with at school without giving them something else to worry about. And, I've only mentioned a bunch of typical lads of my own age. You really don't want to start mentioning weight gain or loss to girls of that age group, as they are already trying to cope with hormonal changes and freak out at the least little thing. Whilst I accept that their health should be monitored, to make sure that they are developing properly but, for Heavens sake, don't go to the papers with the results, as this will cause a rash of bulemics, binge eaters or (and this does my head in) picky eaters. As for me, at 15, I was described by an army medic as being underweight but he didn't know that I could eat 3 more spuds than a pig or that I used to do 2 paper rounds before going to school. I used to fly around that assault course like it was nothing, as others were needing oxygen tanks. At 21, I had an arm like a leg and was always hungry enough to be called 'Munch', as I was forever eating. Kids is kids and they come in all shapes, sizes and now, colours so that we can tell which is ours and which is not. Leave them alone and go clone a few zygotes or something, if you want everything to look the same.[/p][/quote]woolywords and rudis_dad all true words, which of course some people won't like because they are probably beer swilling, cigarette smoking, fast food eating, Sky TV watching mingers who neglect their children but really believe that they are caring for them 100%....it is all down to the parents, whether it is being underfed, bad manners, skipping school, stealing....it all starts at home, you cannot blame anyone else Lancs Away
  • Score: 7

2:47pm Wed 2 Apr 14

ConcernedOssy says...

vicn1956 wrote:
Dominic Harrison is the borough public health director YET NEEDED TO BE TOLD THESE FIGURES BY LT!!!!!!!!!
Can someone explain JUST WHAT HE IS BEING PAID TO DO!

Someone needs to get to the bottom of just what is happening and tell us in plain English what is the cause. (some people called obese are fit as butchers dogs and healthy. Some people's metabolism means they don't put on weight -so many don't trust the "experts.").
If poverty is the cause then all northern MP's should demand of Cameron what is his government going to do about it instead of preening themselves, scoring cheap political points and do what they were voted in to do!
It's one of the great unsolved mysteries of your council there are many getting paid for doing even less if it were possible
[quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: Dominic Harrison is the borough public health director YET NEEDED TO BE TOLD THESE FIGURES BY LT!!!!!!!!! Can someone explain JUST WHAT HE IS BEING PAID TO DO! Someone needs to get to the bottom of just what is happening and tell us in plain English what is the cause. (some people called obese are fit as butchers dogs and healthy. Some people's metabolism means they don't put on weight -so many don't trust the "experts."). If poverty is the cause then all northern MP's should demand of Cameron what is his government going to do about it instead of preening themselves, scoring cheap political points and do what they were voted in to do![/p][/quote]It's one of the great unsolved mysteries of your council there are many getting paid for doing even less if it were possible ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 1

3:34pm Wed 2 Apr 14

blackburn1 says...

The story underneath this says Blackburn children come nearly top in obesity poll ???????????
The story underneath this says Blackburn children come nearly top in obesity poll ??????????? blackburn1
  • Score: 2

10:15pm Wed 2 Apr 14

ConcernedOssy says...

Hungry and obese (see next article) how's this done ?
Hungry and obese (see next article) how's this done ? ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 4

10:18pm Wed 2 Apr 14

ConcernedOssy says...

ConcernedOssy wrote:
vicn1956 wrote:
Dominic Harrison is the borough public health director YET NEEDED TO BE TOLD THESE FIGURES BY LT!!!!!!!!!
Can someone explain JUST WHAT HE IS BEING PAID TO DO!

Someone needs to get to the bottom of just what is happening and tell us in plain English what is the cause. (some people called obese are fit as butchers dogs and healthy. Some people's metabolism means they don't put on weight -so many don't trust the "experts.").
If poverty is the cause then all northern MP's should demand of Cameron what is his government going to do about it instead of preening themselves, scoring cheap political points and do what they were voted in to do!
It's one of the great unsolved mysteries of your council there are many getting paid for doing even less if it were possible
Probably out on the lash celebrating Hollerns victory sack the waster
[quote][p][bold]ConcernedOssy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: Dominic Harrison is the borough public health director YET NEEDED TO BE TOLD THESE FIGURES BY LT!!!!!!!!! Can someone explain JUST WHAT HE IS BEING PAID TO DO! Someone needs to get to the bottom of just what is happening and tell us in plain English what is the cause. (some people called obese are fit as butchers dogs and healthy. Some people's metabolism means they don't put on weight -so many don't trust the "experts."). If poverty is the cause then all northern MP's should demand of Cameron what is his government going to do about it instead of preening themselves, scoring cheap political points and do what they were voted in to do![/p][/quote]It's one of the great unsolved mysteries of your council there are many getting paid for doing even less if it were possible[/p][/quote]Probably out on the lash celebrating Hollerns victory sack the waster ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 3

10:20pm Wed 2 Apr 14

ConcernedOssy says...

ConcernedOssy wrote:
vicn1956 wrote:
Dominic Harrison is the borough public health director YET NEEDED TO BE TOLD THESE FIGURES BY LT!!!!!!!!!
Can someone explain JUST WHAT HE IS BEING PAID TO DO!

Someone needs to get to the bottom of just what is happening and tell us in plain English what is the cause. (some people called obese are fit as butchers dogs and healthy. Some people's metabolism means they don't put on weight -so many don't trust the "experts.").
If poverty is the cause then all northern MP's should demand of Cameron what is his government going to do about it instead of preening themselves, scoring cheap political points and do what they were voted in to do!
It's one of the great unsolved mysteries of your council there are many getting paid for doing even less if it were possible
Bet you'd do less to be paid more like him lol
[quote][p][bold]ConcernedOssy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: Dominic Harrison is the borough public health director YET NEEDED TO BE TOLD THESE FIGURES BY LT!!!!!!!!! Can someone explain JUST WHAT HE IS BEING PAID TO DO! Someone needs to get to the bottom of just what is happening and tell us in plain English what is the cause. (some people called obese are fit as butchers dogs and healthy. Some people's metabolism means they don't put on weight -so many don't trust the "experts."). If poverty is the cause then all northern MP's should demand of Cameron what is his government going to do about it instead of preening themselves, scoring cheap political points and do what they were voted in to do![/p][/quote]It's one of the great unsolved mysteries of your council there are many getting paid for doing even less if it were possible[/p][/quote]Bet you'd do less to be paid more like him lol ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 1

10:24pm Wed 2 Apr 14

ConcernedOssy says...

vicn1956 wrote:
The article in the paper states that "D.harrison thanked the LT for alerting him to the shocking figures." Why is the article above different?
Because right and left don't mix or speak to each other
[quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: The article in the paper states that "D.harrison thanked the LT for alerting him to the shocking figures." Why is the article above different?[/p][/quote]Because right and left don't mix or speak to each other ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 2

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