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Clarets fan’s goal celebrations ‘excessive’

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A CLARETS fan who rubs shoulders with royalty, heads of state and Government ministers in his roll as an RAF police officer was arrested during the derby match between Blackburn and Burnley.

Blackburn magistrates heard Joshua Thomas Bramwell, 23, was thrown out of the ground because of his ‘excessive’ celebrations of Burnley’s second goal.

But when police officers told him he would not be allowed back in, he said: “I was just celebrating a goal. This is a joke. You lot think you are hard but you are not stopping me going back in.”

Catherine Allan, prosecuting, said it was sad that uniformed officers should be subjected to abuse simply for doing their job.

“It is particularly sad when it comes from someone who serves in the RAF,” said Miss Allan. “He perhaps should have more respect for officers doing a difficult job.”

Bramwell, 23, of Pinners Close, Ramsbottom, pleaded guilty to using threatening or abusive words or behaviour or disorderly behaviour. He was fined £230 with £105 costs.

The magistrates declined to make a football banning order saying they did not think it was necessary or proportionate.

The chairman told Bramwell: “Behaviour like yours can incite the rest of the crowd. For the sake of your career you need to keep a lid on your temper.”

Miss Allan said when Danny Ings scored a number of fans surged forward and climbed netting.

“The defendant celebrated excessively and failed to calm down,” said Miss Allan.

She added Bramwell had a caution for resisting a police officer in 2010 and had also received a penalty notice for a similar offence. In June 2013 he was dealt with for an offence of assault at an RAF summary hearing in the Falkland Isles when he was fined £500.

Dylan Bradshaw, defending, said his client was a senior aircraftman based at RAF Northolt. A reference from his employers referred to his ‘diplomacy and tact’ in dealing with ‘heads of state, the Royal Family and ministers of the Government’.

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12:53pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Champagne plus charlie says...

Probably a typical bitter Blackburn police officer that nicked him.

Excessive celebrations? What a load of rubbish.
Probably a typical bitter Blackburn police officer that nicked him. Excessive celebrations? What a load of rubbish. Champagne plus charlie
  • Score: -10

1:03pm Fri 28 Mar 14

hasslem hasslem says...

Champagne plus charlie wrote:
Probably a typical bitter Blackburn police officer that nicked him.

Excessive celebrations? What a load of rubbish.
seems he has form - no problem with people celebrating and getting carried away.....but there is always a limit.

cops may have made a mistake once - but three times? unlikely.

“I was just celebrating a goal. This is a joke. You lot think you are hard but you are not stopping me going back in.” - I wonder if any words have been left out of this transcript?
[quote][p][bold]Champagne plus charlie[/bold] wrote: Probably a typical bitter Blackburn police officer that nicked him. Excessive celebrations? What a load of rubbish.[/p][/quote]seems he has form - no problem with people celebrating and getting carried away.....but there is always a limit. cops may have made a mistake once - but three times? unlikely. “I was just celebrating a goal. This is a joke. You lot think you are hard but you are not stopping me going back in.” - I wonder if any words have been left out of this transcript? hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 12

1:42pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Give_Kean_A_Chance says...

Absolute joke. No wonder no one likes the police. Nicking people for excessive celebrations? Oh my god, what next, they will be nicking you for speaking your mind, oh yes, sorry they already do that too
Absolute joke. No wonder no one likes the police. Nicking people for excessive celebrations? Oh my god, what next, they will be nicking you for speaking your mind, oh yes, sorry they already do that too Give_Kean_A_Chance
  • Score: -12

1:45pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Give_Kean_A_Chance says...

Give_Kean_A_Chance wrote:
Absolute joke. No wonder no one likes the police. Nicking people for excessive celebrations? Oh my god, what next, they will be nicking you for speaking your mind, oh yes, sorry they already do that too
Apologies, I shouldn't have said that. I'll probably get nicked for it too....
[quote][p][bold]Give_Kean_A_Chance[/bold] wrote: Absolute joke. No wonder no one likes the police. Nicking people for excessive celebrations? Oh my god, what next, they will be nicking you for speaking your mind, oh yes, sorry they already do that too[/p][/quote]Apologies, I shouldn't have said that. I'll probably get nicked for it too.... Give_Kean_A_Chance
  • Score: -5

1:51pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Rich Riley says...

I hope this result will be fed back to his bosses at the RAF to see what their view of it is. He should be sacked
I hope this result will be fed back to his bosses at the RAF to see what their view of it is. He should be sacked Rich Riley
  • Score: 2

3:48pm Fri 28 Mar 14

greenscreener says...

How does a guy with his record get anywhere near a position of such responsibility, he clearly cannot be trusted to control himself.
How does a guy with his record get anywhere near a position of such responsibility, he clearly cannot be trusted to control himself. greenscreener
  • Score: 6

3:48pm Fri 28 Mar 14

foxy lass says...

This is no innocent man, why should the police receive this abuse. Some people seem to think its acceptable to abuse police officers. Years ago, they would not dare, out of fear and respect. This guy has previous for mouthing off and being violent. Clearly the type we do not want in a disciplined service like the RAF. Idiot!!!! Soft punishment from the court yet again. Where is the deterrence!!!!
This is no innocent man, why should the police receive this abuse. Some people seem to think its acceptable to abuse police officers. Years ago, they would not dare, out of fear and respect. This guy has previous for mouthing off and being violent. Clearly the type we do not want in a disciplined service like the RAF. Idiot!!!! Soft punishment from the court yet again. Where is the deterrence!!!! foxy lass
  • Score: 7

3:58pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Steven Seagull says...

Give_Kean_A_Chance wrote:
Absolute joke. No wonder no one likes the police. Nicking people for excessive celebrations? Oh my god, what next, they will be nicking you for speaking your mind, oh yes, sorry they already do that too
Yes everybody hates the Police because they've arrested somebody for excessive celebrations.

Bit of a sweeping statement don't you think?
[quote][p][bold]Give_Kean_A_Chance[/bold] wrote: Absolute joke. No wonder no one likes the police. Nicking people for excessive celebrations? Oh my god, what next, they will be nicking you for speaking your mind, oh yes, sorry they already do that too[/p][/quote]Yes everybody hates the Police because they've arrested somebody for excessive celebrations. Bit of a sweeping statement don't you think? Steven Seagull
  • Score: 5

4:04pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Give_Kean_A_Chance says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
Give_Kean_A_Chance wrote:
Absolute joke. No wonder no one likes the police. Nicking people for excessive celebrations? Oh my god, what next, they will be nicking you for speaking your mind, oh yes, sorry they already do that too
Yes everybody hates the Police because they've arrested somebody for excessive celebrations.

Bit of a sweeping statement don't you think?
Maybe, but I think the police and their heavy handed actions are out of order. Probably because of the way they exaggerate what actually happens to get an arrest and conviction contributes as well, oh and he lies and corruption too. Hillsborough, pleb gate, Birmingham six, that special needs bloke from Rochdale who was set up and framed, and many many more that they get away with
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Give_Kean_A_Chance[/bold] wrote: Absolute joke. No wonder no one likes the police. Nicking people for excessive celebrations? Oh my god, what next, they will be nicking you for speaking your mind, oh yes, sorry they already do that too[/p][/quote]Yes everybody hates the Police because they've arrested somebody for excessive celebrations. Bit of a sweeping statement don't you think?[/p][/quote]Maybe, but I think the police and their heavy handed actions are out of order. Probably because of the way they exaggerate what actually happens to get an arrest and conviction contributes as well, oh and he lies and corruption too. Hillsborough, pleb gate, Birmingham six, that special needs bloke from Rochdale who was set up and framed, and many many more that they get away with Give_Kean_A_Chance
  • Score: -1

4:09pm Fri 28 Mar 14

hasslem hasslem says...

Give_Kean_A_Chance wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
Give_Kean_A_Chance wrote:
Absolute joke. No wonder no one likes the police. Nicking people for excessive celebrations? Oh my god, what next, they will be nicking you for speaking your mind, oh yes, sorry they already do that too
Yes everybody hates the Police because they've arrested somebody for excessive celebrations.

Bit of a sweeping statement don't you think?
Maybe, but I think the police and their heavy handed actions are out of order. Probably because of the way they exaggerate what actually happens to get an arrest and conviction contributes as well, oh and he lies and corruption too. Hillsborough, pleb gate, Birmingham six, that special needs bloke from Rochdale who was set up and framed, and many many more that they get away with
but you don't know how events unfolded in this case AND he has previous - not think there might be a trend here. maybe he has been targetted by plod at three different games - unlikely don't you think?

comparing some rent-a-gob with hillsborough is a bit sick.
[quote][p][bold]Give_Kean_A_Chance[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Give_Kean_A_Chance[/bold] wrote: Absolute joke. No wonder no one likes the police. Nicking people for excessive celebrations? Oh my god, what next, they will be nicking you for speaking your mind, oh yes, sorry they already do that too[/p][/quote]Yes everybody hates the Police because they've arrested somebody for excessive celebrations. Bit of a sweeping statement don't you think?[/p][/quote]Maybe, but I think the police and their heavy handed actions are out of order. Probably because of the way they exaggerate what actually happens to get an arrest and conviction contributes as well, oh and he lies and corruption too. Hillsborough, pleb gate, Birmingham six, that special needs bloke from Rochdale who was set up and framed, and many many more that they get away with[/p][/quote]but you don't know how events unfolded in this case AND he has previous - not think there might be a trend here. maybe he has been targetted by plod at three different games - unlikely don't you think? comparing some rent-a-gob with hillsborough is a bit sick. hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 1

5:08pm Fri 28 Mar 14

CJB official says...

R.A.F. **** thinking he was a hard man hahahahahahahahaha.
R.A.F. **** thinking he was a hard man hahahahahahahahaha. CJB official
  • Score: 2

7:15pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Forever Blue says...

Rich Riley wrote:
I hope this result will be fed back to his bosses at the RAF to see what their view of it is. He should be sacked
Totally agree
[quote][p][bold]Rich Riley[/bold] wrote: I hope this result will be fed back to his bosses at the RAF to see what their view of it is. He should be sacked[/p][/quote]Totally agree Forever Blue
  • Score: 5

8:04pm Fri 28 Mar 14

coates warder says...

Rich Riley wrote:
I hope this result will be fed back to his bosses at the RAF to see what their view of it is. He should be sacked
what a tit you are. he should be sacked.give your head a wobble
[quote][p][bold]Rich Riley[/bold] wrote: I hope this result will be fed back to his bosses at the RAF to see what their view of it is. He should be sacked[/p][/quote]what a tit you are. he should be sacked.give your head a wobble coates warder
  • Score: -6

9:10pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Rich Riley says...

coates warder wrote:
Rich Riley wrote:
I hope this result will be fed back to his bosses at the RAF to see what their view of it is. He should be sacked
what a tit you are. he should be sacked.give your head a wobble
Really? Why? This man is in a position of trust and a position of authority within his chosen career and he behaves like this. Would he accept such behaviour from RAF personnel if he was the police officer on duty? You probably think this kind of behaviour is acceptable and it speaks volumes about you. On your way tramp.
[quote][p][bold]coates warder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich Riley[/bold] wrote: I hope this result will be fed back to his bosses at the RAF to see what their view of it is. He should be sacked[/p][/quote]what a tit you are. he should be sacked.give your head a wobble[/p][/quote]Really? Why? This man is in a position of trust and a position of authority within his chosen career and he behaves like this. Would he accept such behaviour from RAF personnel if he was the police officer on duty? You probably think this kind of behaviour is acceptable and it speaks volumes about you. On your way tramp. Rich Riley
  • Score: 3

10:37pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Give_Kean_A_Chance says...

Rich Riley wrote:
coates warder wrote:
Rich Riley wrote:
I hope this result will be fed back to his bosses at the RAF to see what their view of it is. He should be sacked
what a tit you are. he should be sacked.give your head a wobble
Really? Why? This man is in a position of trust and a position of authority within his chosen career and he behaves like this. Would he accept such behaviour from RAF personnel if he was the police officer on duty? You probably think this kind of behaviour is acceptable and it speaks volumes about you. On your way tramp.
Behaves like what? Celebrating a goal "excessively". How naughty is he eh? Unbelievable.
[quote][p][bold]Rich Riley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]coates warder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich Riley[/bold] wrote: I hope this result will be fed back to his bosses at the RAF to see what their view of it is. He should be sacked[/p][/quote]what a tit you are. he should be sacked.give your head a wobble[/p][/quote]Really? Why? This man is in a position of trust and a position of authority within his chosen career and he behaves like this. Would he accept such behaviour from RAF personnel if he was the police officer on duty? You probably think this kind of behaviour is acceptable and it speaks volumes about you. On your way tramp.[/p][/quote]Behaves like what? Celebrating a goal "excessively". How naughty is he eh? Unbelievable. Give_Kean_A_Chance
  • Score: -1

10:41pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Give_Kean_A_Chance says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Give_Kean_A_Chance wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
Give_Kean_A_Chance wrote:
Absolute joke. No wonder no one likes the police. Nicking people for excessive celebrations? Oh my god, what next, they will be nicking you for speaking your mind, oh yes, sorry they already do that too
Yes everybody hates the Police because they've arrested somebody for excessive celebrations.

Bit of a sweeping statement don't you think?
Maybe, but I think the police and their heavy handed actions are out of order. Probably because of the way they exaggerate what actually happens to get an arrest and conviction contributes as well, oh and he lies and corruption too. Hillsborough, pleb gate, Birmingham six, that special needs bloke from Rochdale who was set up and framed, and many many more that they get away with
but you don't know how events unfolded in this case AND he has previous - not think there might be a trend here. maybe he has been targetted by plod at three different games - unlikely don't you think?

comparing some rent-a-gob with hillsborough is a bit sick.
Arresting and charging somebody for excessive goal celebrations is a bit much though, but it's another result and statistic for the boys in blue I suppose
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Give_Kean_A_Chance[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Give_Kean_A_Chance[/bold] wrote: Absolute joke. No wonder no one likes the police. Nicking people for excessive celebrations? Oh my god, what next, they will be nicking you for speaking your mind, oh yes, sorry they already do that too[/p][/quote]Yes everybody hates the Police because they've arrested somebody for excessive celebrations. Bit of a sweeping statement don't you think?[/p][/quote]Maybe, but I think the police and their heavy handed actions are out of order. Probably because of the way they exaggerate what actually happens to get an arrest and conviction contributes as well, oh and he lies and corruption too. Hillsborough, pleb gate, Birmingham six, that special needs bloke from Rochdale who was set up and framed, and many many more that they get away with[/p][/quote]but you don't know how events unfolded in this case AND he has previous - not think there might be a trend here. maybe he has been targetted by plod at three different games - unlikely don't you think? comparing some rent-a-gob with hillsborough is a bit sick.[/p][/quote]Arresting and charging somebody for excessive goal celebrations is a bit much though, but it's another result and statistic for the boys in blue I suppose Give_Kean_A_Chance
  • Score: -1

11:09pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Rich Riley says...

Give_Kean_A_Chance wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
Give_Kean_A_Chance wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
Give_Kean_A_Chance wrote:
Absolute joke. No wonder no one likes the police. Nicking people for excessive celebrations? Oh my god, what next, they will be nicking you for speaking your mind, oh yes, sorry they already do that too
Yes everybody hates the Police because they've arrested somebody for excessive celebrations.

Bit of a sweeping statement don't you think?
Maybe, but I think the police and their heavy handed actions are out of order. Probably because of the way they exaggerate what actually happens to get an arrest and conviction contributes as well, oh and he lies and corruption too. Hillsborough, pleb gate, Birmingham six, that special needs bloke from Rochdale who was set up and framed, and many many more that they get away with
but you don't know how events unfolded in this case AND he has previous - not think there might be a trend here. maybe he has been targetted by plod at three different games - unlikely don't you think?

comparing some rent-a-gob with hillsborough is a bit sick.
Arresting and charging somebody for excessive goal celebrations is a bit much though, but it's another result and statistic for the boys in blue I suppose
Celebrating a goal excessively is not an offence that you can be arrested for. Celebrating a goal excessively is not what he was charged with either. He was arrested and charged with threatening and abusive behaviour which he pleaded guilty to so therefore he is admitting the offence. Not the kind of behaviour expected of a police officer I'm sure you'd agree.
[quote][p][bold]Give_Kean_A_Chance[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Give_Kean_A_Chance[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Give_Kean_A_Chance[/bold] wrote: Absolute joke. No wonder no one likes the police. Nicking people for excessive celebrations? Oh my god, what next, they will be nicking you for speaking your mind, oh yes, sorry they already do that too[/p][/quote]Yes everybody hates the Police because they've arrested somebody for excessive celebrations. Bit of a sweeping statement don't you think?[/p][/quote]Maybe, but I think the police and their heavy handed actions are out of order. Probably because of the way they exaggerate what actually happens to get an arrest and conviction contributes as well, oh and he lies and corruption too. Hillsborough, pleb gate, Birmingham six, that special needs bloke from Rochdale who was set up and framed, and many many more that they get away with[/p][/quote]but you don't know how events unfolded in this case AND he has previous - not think there might be a trend here. maybe he has been targetted by plod at three different games - unlikely don't you think? comparing some rent-a-gob with hillsborough is a bit sick.[/p][/quote]Arresting and charging somebody for excessive goal celebrations is a bit much though, but it's another result and statistic for the boys in blue I suppose[/p][/quote]Celebrating a goal excessively is not an offence that you can be arrested for. Celebrating a goal excessively is not what he was charged with either. He was arrested and charged with threatening and abusive behaviour which he pleaded guilty to so therefore he is admitting the offence. Not the kind of behaviour expected of a police officer I'm sure you'd agree. Rich Riley
  • Score: 0

1:54am Sat 29 Mar 14

Steven Seagull says...

Give_Kean_A_Chance wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
Give_Kean_A_Chance wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
Give_Kean_A_Chance wrote:
Absolute joke. No wonder no one likes the police. Nicking people for excessive celebrations? Oh my god, what next, they will be nicking you for speaking your mind, oh yes, sorry they already do that too
Yes everybody hates the Police because they've arrested somebody for excessive celebrations.

Bit of a sweeping statement don't you think?
Maybe, but I think the police and their heavy handed actions are out of order. Probably because of the way they exaggerate what actually happens to get an arrest and conviction contributes as well, oh and he lies and corruption too. Hillsborough, pleb gate, Birmingham six, that special needs bloke from Rochdale who was set up and framed, and many many more that they get away with
but you don't know how events unfolded in this case AND he has previous - not think there might be a trend here. maybe he has been targetted by plod at three different games - unlikely don't you think?

comparing some rent-a-gob with hillsborough is a bit sick.
Arresting and charging somebody for excessive goal celebrations is a bit much though, but it's another result and statistic for the boys in blue I suppose
He wasn't arrested and charged for excessive goal celebrations he was arrested for gobbling off at the old bill. Regardless what you think of them you simply can't do that and as for drawing comparisons to incidents like Hillsborough, the Birmingham 6 and plebgate (the first 2 happening over 20 years ago), what do those incidents have to do with some dicksplash mouthing off at the police? You need to find a link that's both relevant and proportionate.
[quote][p][bold]Give_Kean_A_Chance[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Give_Kean_A_Chance[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Give_Kean_A_Chance[/bold] wrote: Absolute joke. No wonder no one likes the police. Nicking people for excessive celebrations? Oh my god, what next, they will be nicking you for speaking your mind, oh yes, sorry they already do that too[/p][/quote]Yes everybody hates the Police because they've arrested somebody for excessive celebrations. Bit of a sweeping statement don't you think?[/p][/quote]Maybe, but I think the police and their heavy handed actions are out of order. Probably because of the way they exaggerate what actually happens to get an arrest and conviction contributes as well, oh and he lies and corruption too. Hillsborough, pleb gate, Birmingham six, that special needs bloke from Rochdale who was set up and framed, and many many more that they get away with[/p][/quote]but you don't know how events unfolded in this case AND he has previous - not think there might be a trend here. maybe he has been targetted by plod at three different games - unlikely don't you think? comparing some rent-a-gob with hillsborough is a bit sick.[/p][/quote]Arresting and charging somebody for excessive goal celebrations is a bit much though, but it's another result and statistic for the boys in blue I suppose[/p][/quote]He wasn't arrested and charged for excessive goal celebrations he was arrested for gobbling off at the old bill. Regardless what you think of them you simply can't do that and as for drawing comparisons to incidents like Hillsborough, the Birmingham 6 and plebgate (the first 2 happening over 20 years ago), what do those incidents have to do with some dicksplash mouthing off at the police? You need to find a link that's both relevant and proportionate. Steven Seagull
  • Score: 1

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