Row after dead sheep killed by dog left by footpath in Whalley

A ROW has erupted after a farmer tied a dead sheep to a gate close to a public footpath as a warning to irresponsible dog owners.

Neighbours have criticised the move, saying the sight of the sheep is unpleasant for passing walkers in Whalley.

But farmer Colin Middleton said he put the animal carcass there with a warning sign as a last resort after losing several hundreds of pounds of livestock last winter.

Resident Wez Hollin’s 19-year-old daughter Liselle was distressed after she came across the sheep whilst walking the family dog.

Wez said: “She was walking down the path and came across a decomposing dead sheep with no eyes.

“It had been tied to a gatepost right at the side of the footpath.

“It really disturbed her. And surely it’s a health risk by this time.”

Her fiance Simon Teale, 46, went to help Liselle after she found the sheep.

He said: “It’s a nice walk. We have two younger children, a 12-year-old boy and a 10-year-old girl, and we let them take the dog down there because it’s safe and quiet.

“I can’t imagine how my daughter would be if she saw it.

“As dog owners we fully understand the responsibility to not let them chase sheep or bite sheep.

“There’s a small percentage of dog owners who don’t respect that, so I know how the farmer feels, but he’s just doing the doing the community an absolute diservice.

“There’s one particular owner and dog causing people problems. They know who it is so when they’ve dealt with that person the sheep will stay there.”

Mr Middleton said he had now removed the sheep and had not wanted to upset responsibile dog owners.

He said: “It’s a busy pathway down by the river. When the weather is right over 100 dogs go over there every day.

“I’ve nothing against dog owners. I want them to help me find out who it is who is letting her dogs chase my sheep.

“There’s one woman in particular who’s always on her mobile phone while her dog’s running around.

“She can’t control the dog and it won’t come to her.

“There’s nothing offensive on the sign. I put it there next to the entrance to say this sheep was killed by somebody’s dog and I’d notified the police.

“I asked if anybody knows who it is so I can find out who it is and get to the bottom of it.

“I’m not a nasty farmer, but I want compensating for the damage they’re doing.

“Last year we lost around £600 in the winter.”

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10:07am Sat 21 Dec 13

shytalk says...

Colin....Just shoot the bloody dog. Problem solved.
Colin....Just shoot the bloody dog. Problem solved. shytalk

10:10am Sat 21 Dec 13

Danny Earnshaw says...

I have real sympathy with this farmer. Some people really do need to 'Grow a Pair' here. It's a dead sheep for pity's sake.
I have real sympathy with this farmer. Some people really do need to 'Grow a Pair' here. It's a dead sheep for pity's sake. Danny Earnshaw

11:16am Sat 21 Dec 13

khakkij says...

I dont blame him, it is his livelihood., i thought the guy was gonna say the girl that was distressed was about ten, people in whalley & clitheroe need to get in the real world and stop thinking there any different from anyone else., this is probably the highlight of their lives, on a lovely walk, so do whats right and give the farmer her details, just like you would expect the other way round
I dont blame him, it is his livelihood., i thought the guy was gonna say the girl that was distressed was about ten, people in whalley & clitheroe need to get in the real world and stop thinking there any different from anyone else., this is probably the highlight of their lives, on a lovely walk, so do whats right and give the farmer her details, just like you would expect the other way round khakkij

11:40am Sat 21 Dec 13

grumpylittlewoman says...

mrcool wrote:
What's so distressing about a dead sheep??? And the 46 year old fiance with a 19 year old?? I'm sure he has shown her something a lot more withered than a dead sheep.
I think the most distressing part of this story is not the sheep or the 46 year old with a 19 year old finacee, it's the fact that the 19 year old has a 12 year old and 10 year old kid!?
[quote][p][bold]mrcool[/bold] wrote: What's so distressing about a dead sheep??? And the 46 year old fiance with a 19 year old?? I'm sure he has shown her something a lot more withered than a dead sheep.[/p][/quote]I think the most distressing part of this story is not the sheep or the 46 year old with a 19 year old finacee, it's the fact that the 19 year old has a 12 year old and 10 year old kid!? grumpylittlewoman

12:16pm Sat 21 Dec 13

WezHolly says...

Note for the people who don't read the facts properly, the 10 and 12 yr olds are sibling and step sibling to the 19 yr old, who are all children and/or step children to myself and my fiancée, and I'm a lot older than 19!! and who wouldn't be upset by walking into a decomposing animal??? It's not exactly a pleasant view is it. I agree that the farmer is frustrated, rightly so, and has every right to shoot the dog (and wish he would do for all our sakes) BUT displaying a dead animal rather than just a sign is not only offensive but is also against the law!
Note for the people who don't read the facts properly, the 10 and 12 yr olds are sibling and step sibling to the 19 yr old, who are all children and/or step children to myself and my fiancée, and I'm a lot older than 19!! and who wouldn't be upset by walking into a decomposing animal??? It's not exactly a pleasant view is it. I agree that the farmer is frustrated, rightly so, and has every right to shoot the dog (and wish he would do for all our sakes) BUT displaying a dead animal rather than just a sign is not only offensive but is also against the law! WezHolly

1:36pm Sat 21 Dec 13

dogsblox says...

WezHolly wrote:
Note for the people who don't read the facts properly, the 10 and 12 yr olds are sibling and step sibling to the 19 yr old, who are all children and/or step children to myself and my fiancée, and I'm a lot older than 19!! and who wouldn't be upset by walking into a decomposing animal??? It's not exactly a pleasant view is it. I agree that the farmer is frustrated, rightly so, and has every right to shoot the dog (and wish he would do for all our sakes) BUT displaying a dead animal rather than just a sign is not only offensive but is also against the law!
So are Mr Teale and Liselle 46 and 19yrs of age or not?
Sick people springs to mind if they are.
Even though at 19 she is an adult and can do what she likes,when she likes,and it's nobodys elses business.
Wanna be in my gang,my gang,my gang oh yeh.
[quote][p][bold]WezHolly[/bold] wrote: Note for the people who don't read the facts properly, the 10 and 12 yr olds are sibling and step sibling to the 19 yr old, who are all children and/or step children to myself and my fiancée, and I'm a lot older than 19!! and who wouldn't be upset by walking into a decomposing animal??? It's not exactly a pleasant view is it. I agree that the farmer is frustrated, rightly so, and has every right to shoot the dog (and wish he would do for all our sakes) BUT displaying a dead animal rather than just a sign is not only offensive but is also against the law![/p][/quote]So are Mr Teale and Liselle 46 and 19yrs of age or not? Sick people springs to mind if they are. Even though at 19 she is an adult and can do what she likes,when she likes,and it's nobodys elses business. Wanna be in my gang,my gang,my gang oh yeh. dogsblox

1:40pm Sat 21 Dec 13

WezHolly says...

For real???
As the article says, and as I already stated, Simon is MY fiancé...me...Wez..
.
Liselle is 19 and is MY DAUGHTER

Please READ before you judge! Or is that beyond your limited capabilities people?
For real??? As the article says, and as I already stated, Simon is MY fiancé...me...Wez.. . Liselle is 19 and is MY DAUGHTER Please READ before you judge! Or is that beyond your limited capabilities people? WezHolly

1:43pm Sat 21 Dec 13

WezHolly says...

And...of course...let's not forget, the age of my daughter and fiancé is obviously the most important point in this story...

Never mind the farmer breaking the law, or the decomposing sheep that was by the side of the path for any family to witness...

Although I am very happy to report that he has now seen sense and removed it, unlike the other wooly corpse still in the field visible from the road...
And...of course...let's not forget, the age of my daughter and fiancé is obviously the most important point in this story... Never mind the farmer breaking the law, or the decomposing sheep that was by the side of the path for any family to witness... Although I am very happy to report that he has now seen sense and removed it, unlike the other wooly corpse still in the field visible from the road... WezHolly

3:01pm Sat 21 Dec 13

s4awx123 says...

dogsblox wrote:
WezHolly wrote:
Note for the people who don't read the facts properly, the 10 and 12 yr olds are sibling and step sibling to the 19 yr old, who are all children and/or step children to myself and my fiancée, and I'm a lot older than 19!! and who wouldn't be upset by walking into a decomposing animal??? It's not exactly a pleasant view is it. I agree that the farmer is frustrated, rightly so, and has every right to shoot the dog (and wish he would do for all our sakes) BUT displaying a dead animal rather than just a sign is not only offensive but is also against the law!
So are Mr Teale and Liselle 46 and 19yrs of age or not?
Sick people springs to mind if they are.
Even though at 19 she is an adult and can do what she likes,when she likes,and it's nobodys elses business.
Wanna be in my gang,my gang,my gang oh yeh.
obviously you can't read, try again but slower!
[quote][p][bold]dogsblox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WezHolly[/bold] wrote: Note for the people who don't read the facts properly, the 10 and 12 yr olds are sibling and step sibling to the 19 yr old, who are all children and/or step children to myself and my fiancée, and I'm a lot older than 19!! and who wouldn't be upset by walking into a decomposing animal??? It's not exactly a pleasant view is it. I agree that the farmer is frustrated, rightly so, and has every right to shoot the dog (and wish he would do for all our sakes) BUT displaying a dead animal rather than just a sign is not only offensive but is also against the law![/p][/quote]So are Mr Teale and Liselle 46 and 19yrs of age or not? Sick people springs to mind if they are. Even though at 19 she is an adult and can do what she likes,when she likes,and it's nobodys elses business. Wanna be in my gang,my gang,my gang oh yeh.[/p][/quote]obviously you can't read, try again but slower! s4awx123

4:31pm Sat 21 Dec 13

Jerzei Balowski says...

WezHolly wrote:
For real???
As the article says, and as I already stated, Simon is MY fiancé...me...Wez..

.
Liselle is 19 and is MY DAUGHTER

Please READ before you judge! Or is that beyond your limited capabilities people?
To be fair it does read as a 19 year old having a 46 year old fiance - just more terrible use of the English language by an LT journalist.
[quote][p][bold]WezHolly[/bold] wrote: For real??? As the article says, and as I already stated, Simon is MY fiancé...me...Wez.. . Liselle is 19 and is MY DAUGHTER Please READ before you judge! Or is that beyond your limited capabilities people?[/p][/quote]To be fair it does read as a 19 year old having a 46 year old fiance - just more terrible use of the English language by an LT journalist. Jerzei Balowski

4:54pm Sat 21 Dec 13

drunken donut says...

How can a dead sheep be killed? I can't believe that I once failed an interview at the LET.
How can a dead sheep be killed? I can't believe that I once failed an interview at the LET. drunken donut

6:05pm Sat 21 Dec 13

lizj76 says...

Not sure what fives anyone the right to let their dog worry sheep... and im pretty sure its illegal to use a public footpath off the lead

The Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953 s1(2)(c) makes it an offence for a dog to be at large (that is to say not on a lead or otherwise under close control) in a field or enclosure in which there are sheep..

she should be prosecuted.
Not sure what fives anyone the right to let their dog worry sheep... and im pretty sure its illegal to use a public footpath off the lead The Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953 s1(2)(c) makes it an offence for a dog to be at large (that is to say not on a lead or otherwise under close control) in a field or enclosure in which there are sheep.. she should be prosecuted. lizj76

6:24pm Sat 21 Dec 13

sparrowlegs78 says...

Aw diddums, did the dirty dog walkers not like a dose of reality as to the dangers that shnookums and rover can do?
Get a grip of your dogs you bunch of selfish morons, the countryside is not a playground for your designer cross breed mutts!
Aw diddums, did the dirty dog walkers not like a dose of reality as to the dangers that shnookums and rover can do? Get a grip of your dogs you bunch of selfish morons, the countryside is not a playground for your designer cross breed mutts! sparrowlegs78

6:49pm Sat 21 Dec 13

WezHolly says...

Yes lizj, that's exactly our point, the owner who allows their dog off lead needs to be found and prosecuted harshly, it's obscene that these animals are being hurt and even killed. Our complaint is that responsible dog owners who keep their dog on lead are being tarred with the same brush and subjected to seeing this corpse! And it is a public right of way where anybody has the right to walk their dogs. Properly and safely for all concerned. Which is why we keep our dog on his lead as do most responsible dog owners. And sparrow legs we were both born and brought up in the country we abide by the country code and we are fully aware what animals are capable to doing to each other. Our dog is not a designer mutt and if your opinion is purely abuse keep it to yourself.
Yes lizj, that's exactly our point, the owner who allows their dog off lead needs to be found and prosecuted harshly, it's obscene that these animals are being hurt and even killed. Our complaint is that responsible dog owners who keep their dog on lead are being tarred with the same brush and subjected to seeing this corpse! And it is a public right of way where anybody has the right to walk their dogs. Properly and safely for all concerned. Which is why we keep our dog on his lead as do most responsible dog owners. And sparrow legs we were both born and brought up in the country we abide by the country code and we are fully aware what animals are capable to doing to each other. Our dog is not a designer mutt and if your opinion is purely abuse keep it to yourself. WezHolly

6:55pm Sat 21 Dec 13

sparrowlegs78 says...

My opinion is as valid as yours I'll thank you very much!
Go pick up your dogs poo and bin it while you are at it and remember a tree isn't a bin either.
I'm country born and bred and there's a lot more idiots on the end of the lead than idiot dogs on the other end.
Control the dogs, pick up poo and bin it and there wouldn't be these issues.
My opinion is as valid as yours I'll thank you very much! Go pick up your dogs poo and bin it while you are at it and remember a tree isn't a bin either. I'm country born and bred and there's a lot more idiots on the end of the lead than idiot dogs on the other end. Control the dogs, pick up poo and bin it and there wouldn't be these issues. sparrowlegs78

8:05pm Sat 21 Dec 13

WezHolly says...

I'm sorry I'm confused. At what point was picking up poo mentioned? We do and we do dispose of it correctly in the little green bins despite me being in a wheelchair more than some able bodied dog owners do. And your opinion is always valid as is everyone's but not when it is couched in uninformed abuse. You obviously have a problem with dogs and dog owners, which is rather sad. But hey it takes all types. The point we were making was dead decomposing sheep lying by public footpaths can be disturbing, but more importantly are a health hazard and against the law.
I'm sorry I'm confused. At what point was picking up poo mentioned? We do and we do dispose of it correctly in the little green bins despite me being in a wheelchair more than some able bodied dog owners do. And your opinion is always valid as is everyone's but not when it is couched in uninformed abuse. You obviously have a problem with dogs and dog owners, which is rather sad. But hey it takes all types. The point we were making was dead decomposing sheep lying by public footpaths can be disturbing, but more importantly are a health hazard and against the law. WezHolly

8:20pm Sat 21 Dec 13

sparrowlegs78 says...

Lol! Best laugh I've had in years!
The idiocy astounds me.
Lol! Best laugh I've had in years! The idiocy astounds me. sparrowlegs78

8:23pm Sat 21 Dec 13

WezHolly says...

So glad you find find my reasoned arguments so amusing.
You have yourself a merry little Christmas won't you...
So glad you find find my reasoned arguments so amusing. You have yourself a merry little Christmas won't you... WezHolly

8:24pm Sat 21 Dec 13

You're not mugging me off that easily says...

WezHolly wrote:
Note for the people who don't read the facts properly, the 10 and 12 yr olds are sibling and step sibling to the 19 yr old, who are all children and/or step children to myself and my fiancée, and I'm a lot older than 19!! and who wouldn't be upset by walking into a decomposing animal??? It's not exactly a pleasant view is it. I agree that the farmer is frustrated, rightly so, and has every right to shoot the dog (and wish he would do for all our sakes) BUT displaying a dead animal rather than just a sign is not only offensive but is also against the law!
Can you tell me what specific offence and act it falls under for a farmer to have a dead sheep on his own land?
[quote][p][bold]WezHolly[/bold] wrote: Note for the people who don't read the facts properly, the 10 and 12 yr olds are sibling and step sibling to the 19 yr old, who are all children and/or step children to myself and my fiancée, and I'm a lot older than 19!! and who wouldn't be upset by walking into a decomposing animal??? It's not exactly a pleasant view is it. I agree that the farmer is frustrated, rightly so, and has every right to shoot the dog (and wish he would do for all our sakes) BUT displaying a dead animal rather than just a sign is not only offensive but is also against the law![/p][/quote]Can you tell me what specific offence and act it falls under for a farmer to have a dead sheep on his own land? You're not mugging me off that easily

9:20pm Sat 21 Dec 13

Sarah Parry says...

other sheep of his were chased into the river and drowned. It is a shame he has gone to such lengths. I fully support him. This is the countryside with smells noises and animals. I would like to say get used to it, but unfortunately there are so many houses going up less and less people know the rules of the countryside. Any dog found loose in a field of sheep can be shot. They are in lamb now. Only tonight did I see some idiot let their dogs off in Wiswell, charging the sheep round and round. A sign will be put up soon. Public footpaths are maintained by the landowner/farmers it is their duty. As users it is walkers duty to keep their dogs on leads. And while we are at it, please pick up the poo. Yes even in fields, have you any idea how 'pleasant' it is trying to move sheep about smeared in sh1t, picking it out of horses feet. Do the right thing :)
other sheep of his were chased into the river and drowned. It is a shame he has gone to such lengths. I fully support him. This is the countryside with smells noises and animals. I would like to say get used to it, but unfortunately there are so many houses going up less and less people know the rules of the countryside. Any dog found loose in a field of sheep can be shot. They are in lamb now. Only tonight did I see some idiot let their dogs off in Wiswell, charging the sheep round and round. A sign will be put up soon. Public footpaths are maintained by the landowner/farmers it is their duty. As users it is walkers duty to keep their dogs on leads. And while we are at it, please pick up the poo. Yes even in fields, have you any idea how 'pleasant' it is trying to move sheep about smeared in sh1t, picking it out of horses feet. Do the right thing :) Sarah Parry

9:23pm Sat 21 Dec 13

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

Some of the comments above aimed at Wez Hollin’s are shameful & truly out of order.
Some of the comments above aimed at Wez Hollin’s are shameful & truly out of order. Michael@ClitheroeSince58

9:59pm Sat 21 Dec 13

POW WOW says...

Bout time people realised where lamb chops come from if they are offended by a dead sheep!!!!
Bout time people realised where lamb chops come from if they are offended by a dead sheep!!!! POW WOW

10:02pm Sat 21 Dec 13

sparrowlegs78 says...

Truth hurts the self righteous dog walkers with their holier than thou attitudes with regards to their ramblings.
Oh and I have a dog too, controlled and poo picked up after.
Fools!
Truth hurts the self righteous dog walkers with their holier than thou attitudes with regards to their ramblings. Oh and I have a dog too, controlled and poo picked up after. Fools! sparrowlegs78

10:16pm Sat 21 Dec 13

WezHolly says...

You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
WezHolly wrote:
Note for the people who don't read the facts properly, the 10 and 12 yr olds are sibling and step sibling to the 19 yr old, who are all children and/or step children to myself and my fiancée, and I'm a lot older than 19!! and who wouldn't be upset by walking into a decomposing animal??? It's not exactly a pleasant view is it. I agree that the farmer is frustrated, rightly so, and has every right to shoot the dog (and wish he would do for all our sakes) BUT displaying a dead animal rather than just a sign is not only offensive but is also against the law!
Can you tell me what specific offence and act it falls under for a farmer to have a dead sheep on his own land?
Q2: How quickly must fallen stock be disposed of and what are the storage requirements prior to collection?
A: As with all animal by-products, Article 21 of the EU Control Regulation requires fallen stock to be collected, identified and transported without ‘undue delay’. Undue delay is not defined in the EU Control Regulation but is taken to mean as soon as reasonably practicable taking account of individual circumstances for example the availability of a collection service, the storage temperature of the fallen stock (for example carcasses stored at ambient temperatures should be disposed of more quickly that those kept chilled or frozen) and any extenuating circumstances such as poor weather or ill-health.

Although the Government expects farmers to make every effort they can to comply with the EU Control Regulation, it will take a pragmatic approach particularly in winter and poor weather conditions in upland areas and has advised enforcement agencies accordingly.

Pending consignment the carcass must be stored in such a way that animals and birds (including wild animals and birds) do not have access to it.
http://www.defra.gov
.uk/ahvla-en/disease
-control/abp/fallen-
stock-faq/
[quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WezHolly[/bold] wrote: Note for the people who don't read the facts properly, the 10 and 12 yr olds are sibling and step sibling to the 19 yr old, who are all children and/or step children to myself and my fiancée, and I'm a lot older than 19!! and who wouldn't be upset by walking into a decomposing animal??? It's not exactly a pleasant view is it. I agree that the farmer is frustrated, rightly so, and has every right to shoot the dog (and wish he would do for all our sakes) BUT displaying a dead animal rather than just a sign is not only offensive but is also against the law![/p][/quote]Can you tell me what specific offence and act it falls under for a farmer to have a dead sheep on his own land?[/p][/quote]Q2: How quickly must fallen stock be disposed of and what are the storage requirements prior to collection? A: As with all animal by-products, Article 21 of the EU Control Regulation requires fallen stock to be collected, identified and transported without ‘undue delay’. Undue delay is not defined in the EU Control Regulation but is taken to mean as soon as reasonably practicable taking account of individual circumstances for example the availability of a collection service, the storage temperature of the fallen stock (for example carcasses stored at ambient temperatures should be disposed of more quickly that those kept chilled or frozen) and any extenuating circumstances such as poor weather or ill-health. Although the Government expects farmers to make every effort they can to comply with the EU Control Regulation, it will take a pragmatic approach particularly in winter and poor weather conditions in upland areas and has advised enforcement agencies accordingly. Pending consignment the carcass must be stored in such a way that animals and birds (including wild animals and birds) do not have access to it. http://www.defra.gov .uk/ahvla-en/disease -control/abp/fallen- stock-faq/ WezHolly

10:26pm Sat 21 Dec 13

WezHolly says...

I will also direct readers to this site https://www.gov.uk/f
allen-stock and there is a little info here too... https://www.gov.uk/s
heep-and-goat-welfar
e

As for the personal insults, I thank you for your offerings but will enjoy ignoring your small minded comments.
Thank you for the support michael@clitheroe, it's good to know some folk out there are decent... :-) unlike so many others
I will also direct readers to this site https://www.gov.uk/f allen-stock and there is a little info here too... https://www.gov.uk/s heep-and-goat-welfar e As for the personal insults, I thank you for your offerings but will enjoy ignoring your small minded comments. Thank you for the support michael@clitheroe, it's good to know some folk out there are decent... :-) unlike so many others WezHolly

10:28pm Sat 21 Dec 13

sparrowlegs78 says...

It's only personal if it rings true to you. If you are innocent, you haven't had any insults thrown at you. Guilty conscience perchance?
It's only personal if it rings true to you. If you are innocent, you haven't had any insults thrown at you. Guilty conscience perchance? sparrowlegs78

10:29pm Sat 21 Dec 13

sparrowlegs78 says...

Ahh googlefu, clever old Google
Ahh googlefu, clever old Google sparrowlegs78

10:39pm Sat 21 Dec 13

WezHolly says...

Guilty conscience, nope...
Unease at the cruelty and pathetic attempts at stone throwing by my fellow so-called citizens of humanity...totally

All I wished was for a farmer not to subject walkers with unwarranted risk of disease and upset whilst walking on a public footpath...and to treat his fallen livestock with a modicum of dignity...
Not a barrage of pathetic accusations.
I am finished with this pathetic to and fro now
I know I did what I did in clear conscience with a wish to make a small part of life better
If you cannot accept that, it is your choice, but please do not think you are getting to me, I merely realise I am wasting my time, and would prefer to spend it with people I actually care for...
Guilty conscience, nope... Unease at the cruelty and pathetic attempts at stone throwing by my fellow so-called citizens of humanity...totally All I wished was for a farmer not to subject walkers with unwarranted risk of disease and upset whilst walking on a public footpath...and to treat his fallen livestock with a modicum of dignity... Not a barrage of pathetic accusations. I am finished with this pathetic to and fro now I know I did what I did in clear conscience with a wish to make a small part of life better If you cannot accept that, it is your choice, but please do not think you are getting to me, I merely realise I am wasting my time, and would prefer to spend it with people I actually care for... WezHolly

10:44pm Sat 21 Dec 13

sparrowlegs78 says...

It's only personal if it rings true to you. If you are innocent, you haven't had any insults thrown at you. Guilty conscience perchance?
It's only personal if it rings true to you. If you are innocent, you haven't had any insults thrown at you. Guilty conscience perchance? sparrowlegs78

10:45pm Sat 21 Dec 13

sparrowlegs78 says...

Hook, line and sinker my friend.
Hook, line and sinker my friend. sparrowlegs78

10:53pm Sat 21 Dec 13

dogsblox says...

lizj76 wrote:
Not sure what fives anyone the right to let their dog worry sheep... and im pretty sure its illegal to use a public footpath off the lead

The Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953 s1(2)(c) makes it an offence for a dog to be at large (that is to say not on a lead or otherwise under close control) in a field or enclosure in which there are sheep..

she should be prosecuted.
Amen,seems as though somebody is sitting by they're pc/laptop or whatever device,to defend a guilty concience,note to farmer shoot all unleashed dogs on your land.
[quote][p][bold]lizj76[/bold] wrote: Not sure what fives anyone the right to let their dog worry sheep... and im pretty sure its illegal to use a public footpath off the lead The Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953 s1(2)(c) makes it an offence for a dog to be at large (that is to say not on a lead or otherwise under close control) in a field or enclosure in which there are sheep.. she should be prosecuted.[/p][/quote]Amen,seems as though somebody is sitting by they're pc/laptop or whatever device,to defend a guilty concience,note to farmer shoot all unleashed dogs on your land. dogsblox

2:05am Sun 22 Dec 13

GreenTree111 says...

Dogs shouldn't be allowed to chase livestock and should be kept firmly on the lead I completely agree, but shooting them honestly? Wouldn't you consider that method of control outdated? it's more of a violent threat to owners verging on animal cruelty that's brushed under the carpet as acceptable. It seems like a lot of these comments have been made by people who dislike dog and are apparently trigger happy. Also lay off WezHolly, you know for a fact if your child saw a purposely tied up decomposing sheep and was upset by it you'd be straight on the phone ready to complain asking for it to be removed.
Dogs shouldn't be allowed to chase livestock and should be kept firmly on the lead I completely agree, but shooting them honestly? Wouldn't you consider that method of control outdated? it's more of a violent threat to owners verging on animal cruelty that's brushed under the carpet as acceptable. It seems like a lot of these comments have been made by people who dislike dog and are apparently trigger happy. Also lay off WezHolly, you know for a fact if your child saw a purposely tied up decomposing sheep and was upset by it you'd be straight on the phone ready to complain asking for it to be removed. GreenTree111

10:27am Sun 22 Dec 13

Ribblevalley says...

All these comments are all well and good, BUT what should the farmer do? Just sit back and do nothing, apart from of course waste time having to clear away dead stock, make phone calls to arrange disposal, all of which is costing him money and on top of that there is the price of the sheep to stand as well. In this day and age this should not happen, its life though and where there is livestock there has to be dead stock (dead stock through age would be preferable though) But get a grip everyone, maybe the farmer deserves the countryside to help him find the owner of this dog. I dare say that if he had just put a notice up no-one would read it and none of this would be brought to light. Help this farmer instead of attacking him about his decision to place a sheep near to where you walk. Just think if it had been your own dog that was attacked and killed - would you not be putting posters up and wanting the countryside to help.
I say shame on you all who attack the farmer in this, your attack would be better aimed at helping him.
All these comments are all well and good, BUT what should the farmer do? Just sit back and do nothing, apart from of course waste time having to clear away dead stock, make phone calls to arrange disposal, all of which is costing him money and on top of that there is the price of the sheep to stand as well. In this day and age this should not happen, its life though and where there is livestock there has to be dead stock (dead stock through age would be preferable though) But get a grip everyone, maybe the farmer deserves the countryside to help him find the owner of this dog. I dare say that if he had just put a notice up no-one would read it and none of this would be brought to light. Help this farmer instead of attacking him about his decision to place a sheep near to where you walk. Just think if it had been your own dog that was attacked and killed - would you not be putting posters up and wanting the countryside to help. I say shame on you all who attack the farmer in this, your attack would be better aimed at helping him. Ribblevalley

11:54am Sun 22 Dec 13

flowersorseaman? says...

The woman needs arresting, sterilising to prevent her from reproducing further morons and the dog re-homing to someone with a minimum of 5 gcse's. We can't prevent oxygen thieves from having children, more's the pity but we should stop them from owing animals. As for the farmer let's not forget that his livestock are just pound notes to him, not pets, so difficult to feel too much sympathy. If there was really any compassion for the animal would you really tie it's corpse to a fence?
The woman needs arresting, sterilising to prevent her from reproducing further morons and the dog re-homing to someone with a minimum of 5 gcse's. We can't prevent oxygen thieves from having children, more's the pity but we should stop them from owing animals. As for the farmer let's not forget that his livestock are just pound notes to him, not pets, so difficult to feel too much sympathy. If there was really any compassion for the animal would you really tie it's corpse to a fence? flowersorseaman?

11:55am Sun 22 Dec 13

Graham Hartley says...

That a farmer may shoot a dog is quite enough reason for some to think such ill. The police, too, and indeed any authority figure must suffer the same. Among so many granted authority there will be the malicious, incompetent and otherwise unfit - these will be presented as cause for dissent.

Would a photograph of the dead sheep serve as well? And could there be separation of footpath and farm by means of drystone walls? A great boost for that traditional trade.
That a farmer may shoot a dog is quite enough reason for some to think such ill. The police, too, and indeed any authority figure must suffer the same. Among so many granted authority there will be the malicious, incompetent and otherwise unfit - these will be presented as cause for dissent. Would a photograph of the dead sheep serve as well? And could there be separation of footpath and farm by means of drystone walls? A great boost for that traditional trade. Graham Hartley

2:04pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Interocitor says...

The countryside isn't a theme park.

I'm fully on the side of the farmer and good on him/her for bringing a good dose of reality to people who obviously need it.
The countryside isn't a theme park. I'm fully on the side of the farmer and good on him/her for bringing a good dose of reality to people who obviously need it. Interocitor

3:19pm Sun 22 Dec 13

I predict a riot says...

If I was a man with a teenage daughter who was engaged to a 46 year old man with a stepson only 7 years younger than her the last thing I'd be doing is getting the fact published in the Lancashire Evening Telegraph.
If Wez Holly is so concerned for his daughter and step garandchildren's welfare it doesn't come across very well and they are probably very embarrassed this has all been publicised in such an open forum. The article doesn't appear to state Wez Holly's age, is this because he didn't want to disclose this detail or perhaps he's younger than his own daughter's husband to be and he didn't want to embarrass the happy couple any more than he already has.

As for the farmer in this article, you my friend should shoot the bloody dogs that are threatening your livelihood, once word gets out that uncontrolled dogs are being shot you can guarantee the owners that can't control their 4 legged friends will soon have them back where they belong, on a lead whilst on private property.
If I was a man with a teenage daughter who was engaged to a 46 year old man with a stepson only 7 years younger than her the last thing I'd be doing is getting the fact published in the Lancashire Evening Telegraph. If Wez Holly is so concerned for his daughter and step garandchildren's welfare it doesn't come across very well and they are probably very embarrassed this has all been publicised in such an open forum. The article doesn't appear to state Wez Holly's age, is this because he didn't want to disclose this detail or perhaps he's younger than his own daughter's husband to be and he didn't want to embarrass the happy couple any more than he already has. As for the farmer in this article, you my friend should shoot the bloody dogs that are threatening your livelihood, once word gets out that uncontrolled dogs are being shot you can guarantee the owners that can't control their 4 legged friends will soon have them back where they belong, on a lead whilst on private property. I predict a riot

3:24pm Sun 22 Dec 13

WezHolly says...

I predict a riot wrote:
If I was a man with a teenage daughter who was engaged to a 46 year old man with a stepson only 7 years younger than her the last thing I'd be doing is getting the fact published in the Lancashire Evening Telegraph.
If Wez Holly is so concerned for his daughter and step garandchildren's welfare it doesn't come across very well and they are probably very embarrassed this has all been publicised in such an open forum. The article doesn't appear to state Wez Holly's age, is this because he didn't want to disclose this detail or perhaps he's younger than his own daughter's husband to be and he didn't want to embarrass the happy couple any more than he already has.

As for the farmer in this article, you my friend should shoot the bloody dogs that are threatening your livelihood, once word gets out that uncontrolled dogs are being shot you can guarantee the owners that can't control their 4 legged friends will soon have them back where they belong, on a lead whilst on private property.
Ummm I'm a WOMAN
Read the article properly, sheesh! And the reason I asked the paper not to publish my age is coz it's none of your business!
Why are so many idiots incapable of reading facts sure that my fiancé is about to marry my daughter, his future step daughter!
[quote][p][bold]I predict a riot[/bold] wrote: If I was a man with a teenage daughter who was engaged to a 46 year old man with a stepson only 7 years younger than her the last thing I'd be doing is getting the fact published in the Lancashire Evening Telegraph. If Wez Holly is so concerned for his daughter and step garandchildren's welfare it doesn't come across very well and they are probably very embarrassed this has all been publicised in such an open forum. The article doesn't appear to state Wez Holly's age, is this because he didn't want to disclose this detail or perhaps he's younger than his own daughter's husband to be and he didn't want to embarrass the happy couple any more than he already has. As for the farmer in this article, you my friend should shoot the bloody dogs that are threatening your livelihood, once word gets out that uncontrolled dogs are being shot you can guarantee the owners that can't control their 4 legged friends will soon have them back where they belong, on a lead whilst on private property.[/p][/quote]Ummm I'm a WOMAN Read the article properly, sheesh! And the reason I asked the paper not to publish my age is coz it's none of your business! Why are so many idiots incapable of reading facts sure that my fiancé is about to marry my daughter, his future step daughter! WezHolly

5:48pm Sun 22 Dec 13

lcjfm03 says...

Again more appalling journalism starting with the headline and then throughout the article.

I too get extremely frustrated with irresponsible dog owners, in my case it's not as bad as for the farmer but still day after day cleaning up their mess on the pavement and lawn makes my blood boil.

The farmer should shoot the dog if caught.
Again more appalling journalism starting with the headline and then throughout the article. I too get extremely frustrated with irresponsible dog owners, in my case it's not as bad as for the farmer but still day after day cleaning up their mess on the pavement and lawn makes my blood boil. The farmer should shoot the dog if caught. lcjfm03

5:50pm Sun 22 Dec 13

lcjfm03 says...

WezHolly wrote:
I predict a riot wrote:
If I was a man with a teenage daughter who was engaged to a 46 year old man with a stepson only 7 years younger than her the last thing I'd be doing is getting the fact published in the Lancashire Evening Telegraph.
If Wez Holly is so concerned for his daughter and step garandchildren's welfare it doesn't come across very well and they are probably very embarrassed this has all been publicised in such an open forum. The article doesn't appear to state Wez Holly's age, is this because he didn't want to disclose this detail or perhaps he's younger than his own daughter's husband to be and he didn't want to embarrass the happy couple any more than he already has.

As for the farmer in this article, you my friend should shoot the bloody dogs that are threatening your livelihood, once word gets out that uncontrolled dogs are being shot you can guarantee the owners that can't control their 4 legged friends will soon have them back where they belong, on a lead whilst on private property.
Ummm I'm a WOMAN
Read the article properly, sheesh! And the reason I asked the paper not to publish my age is coz it's none of your business!
Why are so many idiots incapable of reading facts sure that my fiancé is about to marry my daughter, his future step daughter!
Wake up, don't you realise you're having the p taken out of you! LOL
[quote][p][bold]WezHolly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I predict a riot[/bold] wrote: If I was a man with a teenage daughter who was engaged to a 46 year old man with a stepson only 7 years younger than her the last thing I'd be doing is getting the fact published in the Lancashire Evening Telegraph. If Wez Holly is so concerned for his daughter and step garandchildren's welfare it doesn't come across very well and they are probably very embarrassed this has all been publicised in such an open forum. The article doesn't appear to state Wez Holly's age, is this because he didn't want to disclose this detail or perhaps he's younger than his own daughter's husband to be and he didn't want to embarrass the happy couple any more than he already has. As for the farmer in this article, you my friend should shoot the bloody dogs that are threatening your livelihood, once word gets out that uncontrolled dogs are being shot you can guarantee the owners that can't control their 4 legged friends will soon have them back where they belong, on a lead whilst on private property.[/p][/quote]Ummm I'm a WOMAN Read the article properly, sheesh! And the reason I asked the paper not to publish my age is coz it's none of your business! Why are so many idiots incapable of reading facts sure that my fiancé is about to marry my daughter, his future step daughter![/p][/quote]Wake up, don't you realise you're having the p taken out of you! LOL lcjfm03

11:14pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Sarah Parry says...

Just to add to the discussion, not adding to the spectacle of mockery this poor journalism has become, nor to the woman who keeps biting....fallen stock would be taken by the knacker man or huntsman and fed to the hounds. the days we would leave the coins are sadly gone. Now vets have to be called in to destroy animals, incinerator folk have to collect carcasses, at their leisure, when they can them in. This time of year is a nitemare for farmers. Sheep are hard enough to keep anyways, all they want to do is die. That mixed with ignorant footpath users leads to upset, not just now but difficulties in labour, still borns and at worst loss of ewe and lamb(s). The expense of the keep, inoculation, and removal leaves a negative per head, so when you wonder why european meat is so cheap, they don't have this bureaucracy and blue tape. They abs are foul, they vetting is 'different' but they give their animals better chances by not tolerating such nonsense and disrespect. Our animals are kept in such close quarters to our communities folks must be made aware of how things work. The remains of one ewe is still near broad lane we noticed this morning. Good. Someone is responsible for its death, I'm afraid I don't care who, or when or which dod/dogs did it. i'm just glad we are talking about it so it is less likely to happen....and sad for Colin who has had to go to extremes like this before anyone takes notice. Those fields will be gone next year. So thats that. But that also means more dogs and more numpties! less walk space and more sh1t in your buggy wheels, kids shoes and carpets....
Just to add to the discussion, not adding to the spectacle of mockery this poor journalism has become, nor to the woman who keeps biting....fallen stock would be taken by the knacker man or huntsman and fed to the hounds. the days we would leave the coins are sadly gone. Now vets have to be called in to destroy animals, incinerator folk have to collect carcasses, at their leisure, when they can them in. This time of year is a nitemare for farmers. Sheep are hard enough to keep anyways, all they want to do is die. That mixed with ignorant footpath users leads to upset, not just now but difficulties in labour, still borns and at worst loss of ewe and lamb(s). The expense of the keep, inoculation, and removal leaves a negative per head, so when you wonder why european meat is so cheap, they don't have this bureaucracy and blue tape. They abs are foul, they vetting is 'different' but they give their animals better chances by not tolerating such nonsense and disrespect. Our animals are kept in such close quarters to our communities folks must be made aware of how things work. The remains of one ewe is still near broad lane we noticed this morning. Good. Someone is responsible for its death, I'm afraid I don't care who, or when or which dod/dogs did it. i'm just glad we are talking about it so it is less likely to happen....and sad for Colin who has had to go to extremes like this before anyone takes notice. Those fields will be gone next year. So thats that. But that also means more dogs and more numpties! less walk space and more sh1t in your buggy wheels, kids shoes and carpets.... Sarah Parry

7:10am Mon 23 Dec 13

AnthonyUK says...

Anyone who lets their dog loose and roam in a field which subsequently injures or kills sheep/other livestock deserves their dogs to be shot and killed and the owner prosecuted for it.
Anyone who lets their dog loose and roam in a field which subsequently injures or kills sheep/other livestock deserves their dogs to be shot and killed and the owner prosecuted for it. AnthonyUK

12:52pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Owd Akela says...

Just a pity the farmer didn't hang the sheep up with its entrails hanging out as that is what it would look like after being attacked by dog/s.

As for being distressed? What is it with these people that move to rural villages? Ban church bells from ringing, complain about the smell from pig sties. This is the countryside red in tooth, nail and claw.

GET OVER IT.
Just a pity the farmer didn't hang the sheep up with its entrails hanging out as that is what it would look like after being attacked by dog/s. As for being distressed? What is it with these people that move to rural villages? Ban church bells from ringing, complain about the smell from pig sties. This is the countryside red in tooth, nail and claw. GET OVER IT. Owd Akela

5:34pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

WezHolly wrote:
I predict a riot wrote:
If I was a man with a teenage daughter who was engaged to a 46 year old man with a stepson only 7 years younger than her the last thing I'd be doing is getting the fact published in the Lancashire Evening Telegraph.
If Wez Holly is so concerned for his daughter and step garandchildren's welfare it doesn't come across very well and they are probably very embarrassed this has all been publicised in such an open forum. The article doesn't appear to state Wez Holly's age, is this because he didn't want to disclose this detail or perhaps he's younger than his own daughter's husband to be and he didn't want to embarrass the happy couple any more than he already has.

As for the farmer in this article, you my friend should shoot the bloody dogs that are threatening your livelihood, once word gets out that uncontrolled dogs are being shot you can guarantee the owners that can't control their 4 legged friends will soon have them back where they belong, on a lead whilst on private property.
Ummm I'm a WOMAN
Read the article properly, sheesh! And the reason I asked the paper not to publish my age is coz it's none of your business!
Why are so many idiots incapable of reading facts sure that my fiancé is about to marry my daughter, his future step daughter!
They just want to justify their own interbred lives Wez it's not unusual around these parts for your mum to be your dad etc.
[quote][p][bold]WezHolly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I predict a riot[/bold] wrote: If I was a man with a teenage daughter who was engaged to a 46 year old man with a stepson only 7 years younger than her the last thing I'd be doing is getting the fact published in the Lancashire Evening Telegraph. If Wez Holly is so concerned for his daughter and step garandchildren's welfare it doesn't come across very well and they are probably very embarrassed this has all been publicised in such an open forum. The article doesn't appear to state Wez Holly's age, is this because he didn't want to disclose this detail or perhaps he's younger than his own daughter's husband to be and he didn't want to embarrass the happy couple any more than he already has. As for the farmer in this article, you my friend should shoot the bloody dogs that are threatening your livelihood, once word gets out that uncontrolled dogs are being shot you can guarantee the owners that can't control their 4 legged friends will soon have them back where they belong, on a lead whilst on private property.[/p][/quote]Ummm I'm a WOMAN Read the article properly, sheesh! And the reason I asked the paper not to publish my age is coz it's none of your business! Why are so many idiots incapable of reading facts sure that my fiancé is about to marry my daughter, his future step daughter![/p][/quote]They just want to justify their own interbred lives Wez it's not unusual around these parts for your mum to be your dad etc. Michael@ClitheroeSince58

5:41pm Mon 23 Dec 13

sparrowlegs78 says...

Clitheroe, the land of brilliant banjo players, the extra fingers make for fast strumming on the banjo.

Hark can you hear the banjos? You've got a purdy mouth. Squeal like a pig boy, squeal!
Clitheroe, the land of brilliant banjo players, the extra fingers make for fast strumming on the banjo. Hark can you hear the banjos? You've got a purdy mouth. Squeal like a pig boy, squeal! sparrowlegs78

6:42pm Mon 23 Dec 13

WezHolly says...

@sparrowlegs
you have the most amazing grasp of intelligence, witty comebacks and selfless humanity, your mother must be so proud...or is that your sister? aunt perhaps?
such an embarrasment to your poor family...

as for owd akela, my family have lived in whalley these past 50 years...I think I know the countryside thank you very much. One of my main arguments was that the sheep wasnt in the middle of the country (that would have been acceptable), it was on a roadside by a field well within the village boundaries... not quite the same!

As the offense has now been moved, I see no further need for me to lower myself to responding to such neanderthals.
Thank you to the few respondants, and many local residents, dog walkers and police who actually supported my request for its removal. And of course I thank the farmer (Colin?) for finally doing the decent thing. I will continue to keep my dog on his lead around there, and will be sure to watch for any idiots who think it is permissible not to do the same, and hope the issue is soon resolved.
@sparrowlegs you have the most amazing grasp of intelligence, witty comebacks and selfless humanity, your mother must be so proud...or is that your sister? aunt perhaps? such an embarrasment to your poor family... as for owd akela, my family have lived in whalley these past 50 years...I think I know the countryside thank you very much. One of my main arguments was that the sheep wasnt in the middle of the country (that would have been acceptable), it was on a roadside by a field well within the village boundaries... not quite the same! As the offense has now been moved, I see no further need for me to lower myself to responding to such neanderthals. Thank you to the few respondants, and many local residents, dog walkers and police who actually supported my request for its removal. And of course I thank the farmer (Colin?) for finally doing the decent thing. I will continue to keep my dog on his lead around there, and will be sure to watch for any idiots who think it is permissible not to do the same, and hope the issue is soon resolved. WezHolly

6:50pm Mon 23 Dec 13

sparrowlegs78 says...

Lmao! Come on, that is so lame! If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen!
Never have I laughed so much at your feeble excuses.
The world is full of dimwits and WeasleHolly is dimmer than most! Self important nimby.
oh what a laugh you really are.
I can go on all night you know, get comfy, it's going to get bumpy!
Lmao
Lmao! Come on, that is so lame! If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen! Never have I laughed so much at your feeble excuses. The world is full of dimwits and WeasleHolly is dimmer than most! Self important nimby. oh what a laugh you really are. I can go on all night you know, get comfy, it's going to get bumpy! Lmao sparrowlegs78

10:13pm Mon 23 Dec 13

The Silence says...

There are a lot of retarded people out there and most of them seem to be the knuckle dragging dog owners who don't see a problem with letting their inbred mutts run riot in the countryside (as opposed to those responsible owners with well treated "members of the family").
A farmer has the right to expect their stock to be safe on their own property and should do whatever it takes to ensure this. If hanging up the victim of a savage dog makes just one of these Neanderthals put their intellectual equal on a leash then good on them.
As others have said, a simple notice would be ignored (the ability to read seems to be an option for some people these days). Shock tactics are proven to work (look at the national TV adverts there have been for fireworks, using seat belts, etc).
It does seem strange that this WezHolly is trying to turn a valid countryside concern into a rather sad "pity me" whine.
Please grow up and help the poor farmer. DO NOT expect everyone to work around you and your poorly supervised/secured mutt. When on the farmer's land respect their property and possessions - they are not there for your amusement.
Control your dog - or expect the consequences and don't whinge like some city dweller staying at their second house in the country.
There are a lot of retarded people out there and most of them seem to be the knuckle dragging dog owners who don't see a problem with letting their inbred mutts run riot in the countryside (as opposed to those responsible owners with well treated "members of the family"). A farmer has the right to expect their stock to be safe on their own property and should do whatever it takes to ensure this. If hanging up the victim of a savage dog makes just one of these Neanderthals put their intellectual equal on a leash then good on them. As others have said, a simple notice would be ignored (the ability to read seems to be an option for some people these days). Shock tactics are proven to work (look at the national TV adverts there have been for fireworks, using seat belts, etc). It does seem strange that this WezHolly is trying to turn a valid countryside concern into a rather sad "pity me" whine. Please grow up and help the poor farmer. DO NOT expect everyone to work around you and your poorly supervised/secured mutt. When on the farmer's land respect their property and possessions - they are not there for your amusement. Control your dog - or expect the consequences and don't whinge like some city dweller staying at their second house in the country. The Silence

2:36am Tue 24 Dec 13

Mick Graham says...

If its any consolation to the people around Whalley the Magpie I saw on Wednesday morning was filling his belly with the dead sheep! The circle of life and all that stuff!!!
If its any consolation to the people around Whalley the Magpie I saw on Wednesday morning was filling his belly with the dead sheep! The circle of life and all that stuff!!! Mick Graham

6:03pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Graham Hartley says...

Simon Tidswell - two words which usually stir things up.
Simon Tidswell - two words which usually stir things up. Graham Hartley

5:05pm Thu 2 Jan 14

ghost of sceptic says...

What a load of Sheeite talked about this incident. Probablly more likley the sheep in question died of natural causes. Anyone knows sheep at this time of year die at will. Every week i notice dead bodies in the fields i pass and most are removed or left at the gate post for the knackerman to remove. Unless i am mistaken farmers must remove fallen stock due to risk of disease of which there is a cost of around the high £20s. So maybe the farmer in question is just looking for another way of getting compensation for his well subsidised lifestyle. To the bleeding heart brigade who spout on about this poor sheeps welfare, remember why it is there and the fate it would of met you hypocritical corpse crunchers.
What a load of Sheeite talked about this incident. Probablly more likley the sheep in question died of natural causes. Anyone knows sheep at this time of year die at will. Every week i notice dead bodies in the fields i pass and most are removed or left at the gate post for the knackerman to remove. Unless i am mistaken farmers must remove fallen stock due to risk of disease of which there is a cost of around the high £20s. So maybe the farmer in question is just looking for another way of getting compensation for his well subsidised lifestyle. To the bleeding heart brigade who spout on about this poor sheeps welfare, remember why it is there and the fate it would of met you hypocritical corpse crunchers. ghost of sceptic

10:50pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Ribblevalley says...

ghost of sceptic wrote:
What a load of Sheeite talked about this incident. Probablly more likley the sheep in question died of natural causes. Anyone knows sheep at this time of year die at will. Every week i notice dead bodies in the fields i pass and most are removed or left at the gate post for the knackerman to remove. Unless i am mistaken farmers must remove fallen stock due to risk of disease of which there is a cost of around the high £20s. So maybe the farmer in question is just looking for another way of getting compensation for his well subsidised lifestyle. To the bleeding heart brigade who spout on about this poor sheeps welfare, remember why it is there and the fate it would of met you hypocritical corpse crunchers.
How ignorant of you and incredibly rude. I for one will give the farmer credit to know how his sheep was killed, he will know the difference between any of his stock that have either died or been killed. Do you not realise that there must have been tell tale signs !!!
So for you to say
"Probablly more likley the sheep in question died of natural causes. Anyone knows sheep at this time of year die at will."
Is extremely ignorant, and you obviously don't know enough about sheep to comment in this way.
Your other comment
"The farmer in question is just looking for another way of getting compensation for his well subsidised lifestyle"
Ludicrous in the extreme, I am no farmer but do have enough gumption to realise that farming is no easy task and they can easily work 12 hour days.
[quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: What a load of Sheeite talked about this incident. Probablly more likley the sheep in question died of natural causes. Anyone knows sheep at this time of year die at will. Every week i notice dead bodies in the fields i pass and most are removed or left at the gate post for the knackerman to remove. Unless i am mistaken farmers must remove fallen stock due to risk of disease of which there is a cost of around the high £20s. So maybe the farmer in question is just looking for another way of getting compensation for his well subsidised lifestyle. To the bleeding heart brigade who spout on about this poor sheeps welfare, remember why it is there and the fate it would of met you hypocritical corpse crunchers.[/p][/quote]How ignorant of you and incredibly rude. I for one will give the farmer credit to know how his sheep was killed, he will know the difference between any of his stock that have either died or been killed. Do you not realise that there must have been tell tale signs !!! So for you to say "Probablly more likley the sheep in question died of natural causes. Anyone knows sheep at this time of year die at will." Is extremely ignorant, and you obviously don't know enough about sheep to comment in this way. Your other comment "The farmer in question is just looking for another way of getting compensation for his well subsidised lifestyle" Ludicrous in the extreme, I am no farmer but do have enough gumption to realise that farming is no easy task and they can easily work 12 hour days. Ribblevalley

11:19am Fri 3 Jan 14

ghost of sceptic says...

Ribblevalley wrote:
ghost of sceptic wrote:
What a load of Sheeite talked about this incident. Probablly more likley the sheep in question died of natural causes. Anyone knows sheep at this time of year die at will. Every week i notice dead bodies in the fields i pass and most are removed or left at the gate post for the knackerman to remove. Unless i am mistaken farmers must remove fallen stock due to risk of disease of which there is a cost of around the high £20s. So maybe the farmer in question is just looking for another way of getting compensation for his well subsidised lifestyle. To the bleeding heart brigade who spout on about this poor sheeps welfare, remember why it is there and the fate it would of met you hypocritical corpse crunchers.
How ignorant of you and incredibly rude. I for one will give the farmer credit to know how his sheep was killed, he will know the difference between any of his stock that have either died or been killed. Do you not realise that there must have been tell tale signs !!!
So for you to say
"Probablly more likley the sheep in question died of natural causes. Anyone knows sheep at this time of year die at will."
Is extremely ignorant, and you obviously don't know enough about sheep to comment in this way.
Your other comment
"The farmer in question is just looking for another way of getting compensation for his well subsidised lifestyle"
Ludicrous in the extreme, I am no farmer but do have enough gumption to realise that farming is no easy task and they can easily work 12 hour days.
A close member of my family is a farmer i know exactly how farming works i also know a couple of livestock farmers very well. As i also pointed out every week i see fallen stock in fields sometimes left for weeks so dont tell me i dont know what i am talking about. Tell me this. Sheep are as stupid as they come. So when a sheep is being hereded or chased round a field by a working dog or a family pet, does the sheep know the difference! no is the answer the sheep will be as stressed as if it was either dog. I take the point that a sheep being mauled is a totally differen scenario. Farmers farm because they want to. I suspect the thought of being stuck in a factory on the minimum wage would not pay the fuel for there thirsty 4x4s. Ignorant i am not honest i am. I have no time for bleeding heart public or livestock farmers who are in it for profit and not for the animals welfare. Goodbye.
[quote][p][bold]Ribblevalley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: What a load of Sheeite talked about this incident. Probablly more likley the sheep in question died of natural causes. Anyone knows sheep at this time of year die at will. Every week i notice dead bodies in the fields i pass and most are removed or left at the gate post for the knackerman to remove. Unless i am mistaken farmers must remove fallen stock due to risk of disease of which there is a cost of around the high £20s. So maybe the farmer in question is just looking for another way of getting compensation for his well subsidised lifestyle. To the bleeding heart brigade who spout on about this poor sheeps welfare, remember why it is there and the fate it would of met you hypocritical corpse crunchers.[/p][/quote]How ignorant of you and incredibly rude. I for one will give the farmer credit to know how his sheep was killed, he will know the difference between any of his stock that have either died or been killed. Do you not realise that there must have been tell tale signs !!! So for you to say "Probablly more likley the sheep in question died of natural causes. Anyone knows sheep at this time of year die at will." Is extremely ignorant, and you obviously don't know enough about sheep to comment in this way. Your other comment "The farmer in question is just looking for another way of getting compensation for his well subsidised lifestyle" Ludicrous in the extreme, I am no farmer but do have enough gumption to realise that farming is no easy task and they can easily work 12 hour days.[/p][/quote]A close member of my family is a farmer i know exactly how farming works i also know a couple of livestock farmers very well. As i also pointed out every week i see fallen stock in fields sometimes left for weeks so dont tell me i dont know what i am talking about. Tell me this. Sheep are as stupid as they come. So when a sheep is being hereded or chased round a field by a working dog or a family pet, does the sheep know the difference! no is the answer the sheep will be as stressed as if it was either dog. I take the point that a sheep being mauled is a totally differen scenario. Farmers farm because they want to. I suspect the thought of being stuck in a factory on the minimum wage would not pay the fuel for there thirsty 4x4s. Ignorant i am not honest i am. I have no time for bleeding heart public or livestock farmers who are in it for profit and not for the animals welfare. Goodbye. ghost of sceptic

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